jenny roberts joins me now.'s a professor of law and co-director of the criminal justice clinic at american university washington. jenny, thank you for being with us. what's the way around this? because if you were called to this store in minneapolis because someone passed a $20 counterfeit bill allegedly, you've got to think through how does this not end up launching a civil rights movement in which businesses have been burned, people have been injured, more arrests have occurred? that can't be the desired outcome to whatever it was that was alleged that george floyd did on that day on march 25th. >> yeah, that's right. one way around it is massive tamping down of the misdemeanor system in this country. misdemeanors are low-level crimes, generally don't lead to more than a year in jail and often don't lead to any jail time. i think what a lot of people don't realize is that 80% of cases in the criminal legal system are misdemeanor cases. so if you walk into a criminal court, you might be expecting to see homici

robert washburn's dna on jenni bastian's swimsuit. it was head spinning.igh-priority suspect. >> he certainly hadn't abouted like one. they learned in the years after the murder/rape of jenni bastian, robert washburn blended into middle america. literally. stayed out of trouble. in fact, when investigators came knocking at his door? he voluntarily gave them a dna sample. >> reporter: now, more than three decade after that terrible day in the park. washburn was arrested, at home. and then, the new cold-case detective spoke with him. how did he react? >> he was scared. he was very nervous. he was sweating. he asked me, is this about that swab i gave the fbi a year ago? and then, he told me, i didn't kill that little girl. >> reporter: with washburn in handcuffs, it was time to let jenni's mom know. and that job went to retired detective wade. >> so, of course, i had rehearsed what i was going to say. and -- and it all went out the window by the time i got there. couldn't remember what i was going to say. >> and she walked in. i could tell she had been crying