>> well, jenny thomas has gotten what some criticism as has clarence thomas in the past because she wast the obama care, making money trying to make -- repeal the law. and then her husband votes on it. she ran a group that benefitted from the citizens united decision. so she could have made tens if not hundreds of thousands of dollars off that decision. repealing voting rights, abortion, gay marriage. >> and she is on this group that is actively strategizing against it. that's not a conflict, david? >> and some of these groups actually involved may be bringing cases to the court, doing friends of the court briefs. it's very, very close. i mean, for there to be an official -- an official conflict, this is really sort of walking the line. i will tell you one thing that most americans don't realize. there is a code of conduct, an ethical -- an ethics code for everyone in the federal judiciary, except supreme court justices. they don't apply these rules to themselves. but congresswoman louis slata later this week is going to introduce a bill that will make this code of conduct apply to supr