jenny weber, the university of kansas. how are you doing? >> hi, jenny. >> okay. so based on this question, it seems to me that they might not have been entirely wrong in that assumption when you see that the union doesn't really capitalize on what the slaves are doing for like a year and a half into the war. i'm just curious what you see given the research you've been doing on the impact of the emancipation proclamation from the confederate side. >> i mean, it depends what you mean by the emancipation proclamation. like january 1, 1863, things are already pretty far advanced in -- >> i'm thinking the september. >> the september, the preliminary? well, there's no doubt that -- i mean, a lot of the time when i was reading these sources, especially military men's accounts, i felt like i was reading calculus problems. i mean, these are math problems. they have this many people. we don't. you know, the chief of the bureau of conscription is saying there are no men to be had. they begin the war estimating how many white men can we get in the confederate army. and i thi