well, let's bring in journalist jenny yvette in hamburg in northern germany. any thanks so much for taking the time to speak with us. can you tell us what we know about this attack so far? what we know for sure is that this afternoon, a man attacking people on a train on a traveling pastor, passenger, and commuter train, between keel and hamburg. a talked people in a, in a starting attack. and the 2 people have died and 8 people have been injured, 3 of them seriously. among these c with the injured people, is the attacker we've been told he's been taken to hospital. there was may him on the train. i witnesses say that the man began to run a mock that people were running through the train and panic that there were bloodstains on with the train. and apparently the, the fight that the attacker was stopped by people on the train and overwhelmed and that this disturbance, this altercation then continued onto the platform once the train stopped and brought it. so a really, really shocking incident. and of course, the station itself was cordoned off as a major police