negotiating table it and should also end at the negotiating table so i will ask this question now jenstoutenberg, for example, speaking at a conference in oslo last week, said that we are giving weapons to ukraine so that it can defeat russia, and again, he said this as a joke, but all wars usually end at the negotiating table, this one will end. it was not elected and we have absolutely no choice about ending it. i mean simply surrender there or agree to some concessions there, give up part of our territory, because we clearly understand that this war is not the last war, yes. if we are now, when ukrainian society is united, let's say so powerful. our defense forces are so strong. there is such international support. we have to finish off the enemy as much as possible, and here the question is, do you know the vision of peace in general? after this war, if it is just to stop the suffering of ukrainians, then it is definitely a false peace . and that is precisely why i believe that the correct formula is that we need victory in the country, not peace, because peace will simply be a pause when, a

ot jenstoutenberg, for example, speaking in oslo last week at a conference, he said that we are givinghat it can defeat russia, and again, as a mantra, he said this, but all wars usually end at the negotiating table, and this one will end. please tell me what kind of victories they really wish for us in brussels . final victories on the field are frightening. victories at the negotiating table. well, again, this is a european tradition. she is in principle well, we understand, we did not choose her and we have absolutely no choice about ending her we clearly understand that this war is not the last war, yes. if we are now, when ukrainian society is united, let's say that our defense forces are so powerful. to end the suffering of ukrainians is definitely a false peace. and that is precisely why i believe that the correct formula is that the country needs victory, not peace, because peace will simply be a pause when, once again, moscow will gather forces in order to finally decide i don't think there is a ukrainian question. well , in ukraine, in central eastern europe, no one has any d