. >> how is calling jerad kushner disposable, how does that help his client? >> i think there is also the difference between unnamed sources, gossip, rumor, a comment that might be made on the aside versus the people who are running the free world trying to get this nation back on her feet making sure individual lives here, the individual citizens has money in their pocket again and that our enemies don't get a nuclear weapon. and let's forget about the destruction of isis and north korea. a lot of other things going on. >> he is not secretary of state. he is the president's lawyer at the moment. how does -- >> this is my point. this is my point is that we go right back to rudy giuliani when it is the larger picture. >> how does it help donald trump to have rudy giuliani talk about the premature release of three american hostages in north korea when they haven't been released sf how does that help his client? >> the media should be talking about the spectrum of these things but there is a fixation about the gossip and rumors instead of the real news happening