. >> reporter: jeremiah sousa was in seventh grade when he encount eared school administrator. >> hesplit down the middle, he started back over, holding the paddle together so whenever he would hit me, it would pinch the skip on my bottom and bruised and bleeding. >> reporter: samuel bain also informs grade school when he says he got it from a church maintenance man. >> basically told me to bend over and said pull down your pants. i looked -- kind of hesitated, 'cause to me, it doesn't sound right, even to a kid, we were taught not to question people. >> then he did what? >> he laid into me. >> they say not only were they hit when they were here but it was done with great effort to humiliate them in front of whole class, belt them over a chair. is that still done today and do you think that's humiliation? >> yes. it is still done today. and i suppose it is humiliation but again, humiliation is not the big thing. >> what i'm saying to you is god doesn't say anything about humiliation in the bible. >> no. >> he does talk about sparinging the rod. >> yes. >> that is mentioned in the bib

yes, i will. >> jeremiah sousa says he was tormented by faculty members. >> i was secretly taking piano and they found out and pulled me in front of the youth group, called me a tag. queer. >> it got much worse. sousa says he was repeatedly raped by a fellow student. he told no one at the church until many years later. >> i was raped for three years straight there. and i was told it was my fault. i went and told the pastor. owe asked me if i was tithing and giving money to the church at that time. considering that because i wasn't giving money that i was violated. >> plain lying. that did not happen. if it happened, i would be the first one to drag the person to the police station. >> and then there's lois crosby. she started fair haven more than three decades ago. she says the brutality was too much for her. >> i've actually overdosed twice. the second time i overdosed, even the doctors don't know how i'm alive. >> all seven of your former students said they have either thought or tried to commit suicide. a, do you think they are like to me and b, how does that make you feel? >> it mak

. >> reporter: jeremiah sousa was in the 7th grade when he encountered a school administrator. >> heck over holding the paddle together so when he hit me, it would pinch the skin on my bottom, bruised and bleeding. >> reporter: samuel bayne also was in grade school when he says he got it from a church maintenance man. >> he told me to bend over and said pull down your pants. i kind of hesitated because it doesn't sound right even to a kid. we were taught not to question people. >> then he did what? >> he lit into me. >> they said not only were they hit when they were here but done with great effort to humiliate them in front of the whole class, bent them over a chair. is that still done today and do you think that's humiliation? >> yes, it is still done today. i suppose it is humiliation. humiliation is not the big thing. >> what i'm saying to you is god doesn't say anything about humiliation in the bible. >> no. >> he does talk about sparing the rod, that is mentioned in the bible. >> yes. >> why the humiliation? wise that necessary? >> habit. >> i'm a minister, i speak to youth and