with us, jeremy stretch, from cibc markets.ooking at monetary policy this thursday and how it links in with all we do. jeremy, we were talking in the last block about the subtle shift that someone can signal when taking over as the leader of the central bank. governor bailey has been handed negative rates. what does he do with that? do the markets tell him what to do? how does he tactically respond to negative rates? well, it is interesting. as you say, somebody who arrives in a new role has an opportunity to look at the remit and the of parameters, and innocencio make sense for governor bailey to do that. came inse, whilst he suggesting that he agree with previous assumption, he is now opening the door to reassess that option. that is not to say he won't come to the conclusion that in fact the effective lower bound is just about zero because there are some challenges that will need to be faced in terms of the financial sector if there were to be a move toward negative rates, but clearly markets will continue to try and press i

what we do know is that jeremy was badly wounded. he lost a wing and one of his legs. thankfully not the leg that was carrying the message. at least she got that. her life was celebrated after the war when she passed away, she sits gracefully and the collections of the smithsonian institution in the washington area. here is the immortal journey here on this monument that is relatively recently placed in tribute to the lost battalion. why don't we take a walk down the path and see mostly where whittlesey's men were captured and we can explain what happened. >> those are the people who fought and were in the pocket for six days. i think there was a famous baseball player, no? >> yes, eddie grant who is what we call in america was -- he was on a number of baseball teams, including the cincinnati reds. he was among the men at whittlesey's who were killed during that time. his body was recovered and he was immortalized. another soldier who died was private henry chin who was a chinese descent. i don't know the exact number of chinese, either chinese americans or direct immi

in action jeremy we're told that kelly mentions how the w.h.o. is reluctant to call out states but in a pandemic like this don't you need to be more assertive. it's one of the quandaries an organization like the w.h.o. faces because it doesn't have all the same sort of leverage you know it's it can't sanction states it can't threaten to invade say to doesn't have those sorts of tools of diplomacy so what it can do is it can think we could name and shame that state we could publicly call it out and chastise it or we could try to have a more coopted relationship and when you've got a country where a pandemic seems to be starting i think that the calculation of the w.h.o. made was it's probably going to be to our advantage we're probably going to get more and better information from the chinese government if we are working with them if we are trying to provide a tool and so i so i completely understand the criticism i just don't know that given the structures of the w.h.o. and the powers that the member states have given to the i don't know how much

jeremy faust. he is on twitter.e is an er physician at brigham & women's hospital, also an instructor at harvard medical center. richard in washington. good evening. caller: a few minutes ago dr. faust was asked about reopening the economy and made the assumption that the economy should be reopened only if the excess deaths that would be c covid-19 would be exceeded by the deaths avoided by reopening the economy. that assumes we have an absolute value to avoid death. automobiles or motorcycles? because of the pleasure or what it is. we trade off for death. we do it all the time. smoking. why should cigarettes even be produced? we make those trade-offs all the time. some people may want to watch professional sports even if there are excess deaths as a result of covid-19. it isn't just a question of the deaths caused by shutting down the economy, it is also the pleasure forgot and how much -- forgone and how much people value that in comparison to death. host: what is your recommendation? how would you proceed? aller:

jeremy faust.aller: my question is, in i still protecting myself by staying in because i heard in new york, some of the people who died covid-19 stayed in? host: that was the number that governor cuomo said, about 60% on the latest cases for people who had stayed home and yet still contracted covid-19? guest: it is a very difficult question. don't want toi give advice as to whether the caller should do. just listen to public health officials on the local level. point --nk the greater there is a greater point to be drawn from the question, so i am really glad it was brought up, which this virus is very different from almost any virus we have ever encountered, which it spreads even in patients who don't yet have symptoms. asymptomatic or symptom-free patients. that is an unusual circumstance. when you think about it, you get sick and we know about it, and because of the fever, because of the cough, we feel crummy and we self-isolate all the time. we stay home from work. that is what we do. if you thi

people to invent we might we may create or or find some new incredible benefits or it's a kind of jeremy hunt some there from the canadian space agency there in houston jeremy thank you very much indeed thank you there are let's go back to those riots now taking place in many cities right across the usa let's go back to los angeles now and talk to correspond there rob reynolds rob so we know the protests have been taking place there as well just bring us up to date with what's been happening all right we don't have rob reynolds but let's just go and listen to the minneapolis governor he's been he's speaking now listen to what he has to say see opportunities for people to show the best of who we are. and we simply asked for cooperation to help us reestablish order on our streets to make it clear that the force that has been put on the ground is there for the long haul. that this is not a place where violence in his anyway going to step on our dilute the message that we've got work to do around racial injustices we've got work to do to bring justice for george and so please know that we wi

we will try to get back to jeremy stretch.n the meantime let's get the first word news with mark crumpton. mark: thank you so much. house democrats are still drafting their plan for another round of economic stimulus but the will will not be ready for a vote until friday. the price tag could be more than $2 trillion. the centerpiece of the legislation is money for states and cities. president trump and senate republicans have said there is no rush to spend more. the trump administration has taken another move that may raise tensions with china. it is blocking investments in chinese stocks by a government retirement savings fund. the thrift savings plan was set to transfer about $50 billion to mirror the msci all country indexindex that captures emergig markets, including china. -- new infections for the first time since it's lockdown was lifted. six locally transmitted cases were found in people already under quarantine. spain is seeing its number of cases and deaths increase. the country has been slowly easing its lockdown re

collaborating sensor on global change and health from dulles in the united states jeremy you'd a specialist in global health politics and the dean of the college of liberal arts at the university of minnesota and in johannesburg in south africa dr regina o.c. is a medical doctor an infectious disease specialist at the aurum institute welcome to all if i can start with you kelly how is the w.h.o. struggled with managing the coronavirus pandemic or are its members just not listening. to what stem what it is designed to do and at the early stages larry we will need to find out whether it's done it in a timely manner but essentially what it's designed to do is to collect intelligence about outbreaks and then share that information with member states and it bice's those member states what it should do in response now the question is did it do it in a timely manner and it never states respond in a timely manner those are the questions i think we need to ask jeremy what do you think. has the responded in a timely manner to the w.-h. to the coronavirus outbreak. you know i think kelly is absolutely

the flames coming within feet of the you yous s jeremy. thanks to firefighters who were able to put out those flames before it reached that historic ship. the fire broke out just before 5:00 this morning at peer and less than a mile from the popular pier 39. there are questions now about the structural integrity about the fire itself. >> this fire was massive. fire chief said that the fire likely started inside the becau warehouse was so big it took a while for anybody nearby to notice the smoke and flames. >> bright hot flames shot up into the sky early saturday is morning. the 4 alarm fire was attacked by land and water. 150 firefighters, 50 trucks and engines and a couple of. >> throughout the progress of this fire we did see almost every portion of this building collapse in one area or another. >> the san francisco fire department says one firefighter was injured but no one else was hurt. pier 45 in the heart of fisherman's wharf is home to the uss o'brian. both are safe. the one major loss is the warehouse, a business with marine styl

jeremy corban himself and his iteration of the labour party was completely destroyed last december and there are lots of reasons for that not least the jeremy corban is not just a socialist but extraordinarily radical leftist but profoundly anti-british, anti-patriotic. .. didn't talked about but significant numbers for the first time in their life, a different situation in the states it seems to me but i also think will be a different situation after this. economic recovery from this catastrophe. i would take a think of everything doubling down from a set of things the right were impossible and unimaginable. thinking of things of like it's not ubi but it's like a test that's occurred in the u.s. in recent weeks. it's now possible to see what a british government who said there's no money couldn't find not just some spare money but billions and bearings billions. after this, it would seem to me when the radical leftist say we would like to do this in the future, we can no longer say that because we cannot just imagine it but we've done it. a small extent compared to what they would lik

i for one, jeremy, hope he's not taking it.to the patterns, the patterns of what we learn about trump and his health are not truthful. he had the doctor, i believe dr. bornstein, who described him as, you know, the most vibrant, healthy specimen he'd ever seen. then he had dr. ronny cooper, who now has co-signed onto some of the fantastical conspiracies of the trump era. there's not a history of getting great medical information about this president, jeremy. >> yeah. he also has a 34-inch waist and grew 3 inches last year. everything he says about his medical condition you have to take with a ten-pound bag of salt. again, this is the president who prescribed injections of disinfectants, clorox and lysol, and set off a national panic and tens of thousands of calls into poison control centers. that's the kind of stuff kids can get their hands on. this is truly dangerous and we're going to take his advice about prophylactic hydroxychlorine? i don't think so.oquine? i don't think so. >> i'm glad you mentioned the bleach injection.

jeremy faust. he is on twitter.e is an er physician at brigham & women's hospital, also an instructor at harvard medical center. richard in washington. good evening. caller: a few minutes ago dr. faust was asked about reopening the economy and made the assumption that the economy should be reopened only if the excess deaths that would be c covid-19 would be exceeded by the deaths avoided by reopening the economy. that assumes we have an absolute value to avoid death. automobiles or motorcycles? because of the pleasure or what it is. we trade off for death. we do it all the time. smoking. why should cigarettes even be produced? we make those trade-offs all the time. some people may want to watch professional sports even if there are excess deaths as a result of covid-19. it isn't just a question of the deaths caused by shutting down the economy, it is also the pleasure forgot and how much -- forgone and how much people value that in comparison to death. host: what is your recommendation? how would you proceed? aller:

. >> oh, good chat with you, bud i love you [ ringing >> jeremy! >> gary?>> oh, gary, i miss you, dog >> oh, what is going on? it's been forever. >> oh, no, no, whatever is going on is insane i don't know what day it is. i don't change my colors anymore. i haven't shed my skin in literally weeks. >> i know, right i mean i always wish they were home more often, but this is crazy. i feel like i pissed off a a genie or something [ laughter ] >> that's funny, i think i'm dumb apparently, my brain's the size of a basketball. >> well, basketballs are big, jeremy >> see, dumb i can't keep my balls straight >> oh, and they put me in this show >> that's cool, right? >> it's embarrassing look at gary, the silly monkey dog. isn't it funny we gave her a man's name >> i'm a freakin' bearded dragon named jeremy. i should be called something fierce like viper or firestorm queen dragasaurus. jeremy sounds like a guy from hr no one wants to talk to at a holiday party. >> you know what, jer? how about it you and me, we bust out of here >> bust out? >> you sneak out of your h

>> all right, jeremy, thank you. jeremy diamond over at the white house.et's go to florida right now where businesses in all but three counties will start reopening their doors tomorrow. governor ron desantis says florida restaurants and retail spaces can open to customers, but only at 25% capacity. staying closed for now, movie theaters, bars, gyms, and hair salons, this as more than a million floridians have now lost their jobs and have applied for unemployment benefits since mid-march, with only a fraction so far receiving payments. let's go to cnn's randi kaye, joining us from west palm beach right now. palm beach county, as you know, along with miami-dade and broward counties, the three largest counties in the state, not reopening tomorrow. the rest of the state reopening, not those three counties. the governor saying businesses there will begin phase one when it's safer. what more are you learning? >> reporter: yeah, it could be a few weeks before those counties in southern florida, including this county, palm beach county where i am, do reopen, wolf

jeremy, let's start with the phasing down of this coronavirus task force. do we know exactly why they're doing this? >> reporter: well, jake, we know the president and many of his advisers have been eager to pivot towards reopening the economy. but as that has begun to happen, we've seen some states begin to reopen their economies, we've also watched some of the models including those the white house uses, begin to predict a spike in deaths over the next couple of months. despite that, jake, we heard that mike pence told reporters today the white house is having conversations about phasing out the coronavirus task force and it could happen as early as memorial day. the president's first trip out of the washington area in 38 days. and we're learning the white house coronavirus task force may soon be dissolved, a senior white house official telling cnn it could happen as soon as memorial day, but pointing out the president will be continue to be advised by medical experts. president trump today will tour a mask manufacturing plant in arizona, where the presid

i want to bring in jeremy diamond, joining me now. jeremy, what exactly did president trump say?king hydroxychloroquine? >> reporter: yeah, jake, president trump has repeatedly touted this drug but he just announced moments ago for the first time that he himself has actually been taking hydroxychloroquine for the last week and a half. and the president says he's taking it essentially as a prophylaxis to prevent getting the disease in the future despite the fact that there is so far no substantive medical evidence to back up the fact that it works not only as a treatment but all the more as a prophylaxis. listen to what the president said just a few moments ago. >> it's been around for 40 years for malaria, for lupus, for other things. i take it. front line workers take it. a lot of doctors take it. excuse me. a lot of doctors take it. i take it. >> reporter: and jake, we should note there, as you were saying at the top, no studies so far have shown this is an effective treatment against coronavirus. in fact there was a pretty significant study that showed there was no effect on m

. >> all right, let's go to our white house correspondent, jeremy diamond.eremy, this is not the first time in recent days the white house has singled out the cdc for what they portray as major shortcomings. >> reporter: well, wolf, it certainly is remarkable to hear a senior white house official going after the centers for disease control and prevention in the middle of a global pandemic, but that is exactly what we heard peter navarro do there, as he singled out the cdc for some early failures on the testing front. now, to be sure, wolf, those failures on the testing front certainly did happen at the cdc -- contaminated manufacturing process led to weeks of delays in getting a coronavirus test kit out to broadly -- to broad use across the country. of course, there have been other failures inside the administration that other officials have identified, including the hhs whistle-blower, rick bright, who talked about a failure to adequately prepare for a pandemic by getting some of those crucial personal protective equipment supplies and other crucial medical

our white house correspondent jeremy diamond is joining us. jeremy, the fda says hydroxychloroquine has not been shown to be either safe or effective for treating or for preventing the coronavirus. but the president says it gives him an additional level of safety. >> reporter: that's exactly right, wolf. president trump's defiance today in the face of all the criticism he's facing after he announced yesterday that he has been taking a daily dose of hydroxychloroquine for about a week and a half now. the president defending his decision and also attacking studies, several studies that have shown that hydroxychloroquine is not effective against coronavirus, either in treating the infection or in preventing one from getting it in the first place. listen. >> you have to go to a doctor. i have a doctor in the white house. i said, what do you think? and it's just a line of defense. i'm just talking about as a line of defense. i'm dealing with a lot of people. look at all the people in the room. you know, i'm the president and i'm dealing with a lot

is waiting for a vaccine in a moment we'll talk to the internationally renowned medical research jeremy farrar but 1st an update on where we stand. around the world more than 100 projects have been launched to develop a vaccine against the novel coronavirus. but it's still far from clear which candidate will succeed. beer and was the 1st german company to be approved for clinical trials. the $200.00 healthy volunteers taking part in the trial are receiving what's known as a gene based faxing. this type of vaccine introduces genetic material r.n.a. from the pathogen into the body the r.n.a. tells the body's cells to recreate a known disease causing caution of the virus and to jim's these suggestions that spark the immune system into creating antibodies that fight against the real covert 19. the biotech company cure fact based in southwestern germany is also working on a vaccine like this amazingly just one gram of the active ingredient could be used to create a 1000000 vaccine doses. we think this r.n.a. technology will provide a very good and fast solution. the 2 companies were hoping t

jeremy diamond, thank you. >>> health officials say it will be months before we get a

>> all right, jeremy. thanks very much. jeremy diamond's going to be at the white house. if more members of the coronavirus task force decide they, too, will go into self-quarantine, get that news for us. we'll of course report that is a well. we're following all these developments very, very closely. significant developments indeed. joining us on the phone, dr. sanjay gupta. give us your reaction that dr. fauci is entering for 14 days what he calls modified isolation. >> yeah, modified quarantine. this is, this is, consistent with the cdc guidelines, which is if you've had exposure to someone with known infection that you then based on the level of your contact, and i think they're calling these low risk but enough of an interaction for these three doctors that they should go into quarantine. it's, it should be quarantine, you know, i know dr. fauci's talking about the fact that he may go into his office if no one else is there, wear a mask all the time. but the reality is if you look at the guidelines and you understand the thinking behind it, it's at this point for the

and under internationally renowned medical research jeremy for us a very good to have you on the show starting on an optimistic note when do you expect we'll have a vaccine ready. being optimistic i would say we'll have a vaccine that we believe to be safe and which we're starting to see evidence it we hope would be protective i would hope we would have 1000 in the in the in the 4th quarter of 2020 but that's only the start because having a vaccine at that stage is not enough to vaccinate everybody all over the world and that's where we need to work to do so so that is going to take a few months later and we need to do all of these things in parallel rather than all in sequence to get there as quickly as we can to offer back seems to the world right you mentioned a very sensitive point there because let's say that we do get a vaccine this year who is going to be in charge of distributing it and how can we ensure that that will be fair. that's a great question and if course if it has to be fair we have to believe in a world which is equitable and which access to this vaccine because th

jeremy condike is the former director for asid under president obama. natalie azar from the nyu langone medical center. dr. azar, what context can you give us on all of the above? >> well, i think the vaccine story is probably the most interesting one of the day. so i think it's kind of important to put it into context that the vaccine that the white house is talking about happens to be something, and i'm going to get a little bit technical for a second, because it's a new technology that we've never actually had a vaccine licensed with this particular technology before. so that's important to remember, because the traditional way of making a vaccine is indeed very cumbersome. they use virus that is either live, attenuated or dead, and it takes a long time to develop that kind of a vaccine. typically, that four to five year at the shortest timeline that we've been talking about. this is different kind of methodology. so in concept or in theory, it can be expedited. i've listened to a couple experts weigh in on this idea that it can be ready by the end o

should not be confused by all these attacks and every quarter been the reason why they don't like jeremy corbyn is because he tried to enact the labor party's program well that's where the labor party's always said it stood for but in fact in reality you know we know the truth about the labor party and government so i think the labor party is still a terrain in which if you're in the u.k. i think you should be a part of the labor party you should struggle to build up the progressive wing of the labor party to fight against centrist vacillations and to fight against a labor right it doesn't belong to business interests it doesn't belong to these professional politicians the labor party by definition the u.k. labor party belongs to those and the u.k. you're out there working class but yes so far the response to the report has been absolutely. you know it's been devastating the lack of a response given how how callous and how vindictive some of the racial abuse that was that was released as part of that report and also the revelations about attempts to undermine german carbon journal campai

we are joined by jeremy green. jeremy when i saw the lineup i thought how did you put all these a listers together to do this? it had to be a task. did you get one big celebrity and everyone piles on? >> i called every friend that i knew and said you're doing this thing and i need your help. without hesitation everyone jumped on board. rascal flats is performing during the halftime show. it's going to be crazy. we are excited to see ninja and rock battle it out. >> just for people who don't know. cronk challenge ninja to play this video game. i don't know if he knew what he was getting into. cronk does not back away from a challenge. it will be fun to see cronk losing his you know what against ninja. these are the kinds of things we will be seeing, right, jeremy? >> i mean it's all for charity. raising money for the boys and girls club. giving people more than 1 million bills and i can't wait to see what is going to happen with all involved gameplaying. we have walker flocka, ray shermer, we have a ton of people at

. >> all right, let's go to jeremy diamond. this is certainly not the first time expressing frustration. is this tension normal or is this something more significant unfolding right now. >> there is no question that it is remarkable to here a senior he talked about the cdc's early testing failures. make no mistake he is hitting the mark on some of the failures of the cdc that cause the delay for several weeks, three weeks of delays in terms of getting those testing kits across the country early in this pandemic. that was just one point of several early missteps in this administration's response to the coronavirus pandemic into why are they singling out the cdc? there has been rising tensions between the white house and the center for disease control. part of that is over criticisms from the white house end. they have been gathering and tracking data saying it is an antiquated system. some of that coming from dr. debra burkes. and there has been frugs strags that the -- frustration that they have shelved the deadlines. they will

ana. >> jeremy diamond at the white house. thank you. >> i want to wring in florida democratic congressman donna shilayl shilayla. congresswoman, thank you for taking the time this afternoon, similar to obama who we just heard from, you have been critical of the president's coronavirus response. but you did have some nice things to say about the vice president. and i'm quoting you from yesterday. you said the president had gotten out of the way, the vice president would have done just fine because he had just the right tone about working with state and local governments. so do you believe the vice president has been a strong leader in all of this? >> well i think that he's had the right tone and put as much as he could the scientists in front. but the problem is, the president overwhelmed those press conferences with misinformation. and the stories that came out were about the kind of kwak stuff the president came out with. with drinking lysol or whatever he was talk about and pushing drugs that haven't been tested. i thought

jeremy, thank you.ciate you taking time to help us understand this, particularly since we had to hurdle our technical difficulties there. it's great to have you here. >> thanks. >> much more to get to tonight. stay with us. stay with us for people living with h-i-v, keep being you. and ask your doctor about biktarvy. biktarvy is a complete, one-pill, once-a-day treatment used for h-i-v in certain adults. it's not a cure, but with one small pill, biktarvy fights h-i-v to help you get to and stay undetectable. that's when the amount of virus is so low it cannot be measured by a lab test. research shows people who take h-i-v treatment every day and get to and stay undetectable can no longer transmit h-i-v through sex. serious side effects can occur, including kidney problems and kidney failure. rare, life-threatening side effects include a buildup of lactic acid and liver problems. do not take biktarvy if you take dofetilide or rifampin. tell your doctor about all the medicines and supplements you take, if

jeremy? >> jeremy schwartz here. so reverting back to banking, certainly an exciting development regarding the $50,000 -- the potential for up to $50,000 for a bridge loan. treasurer ma certainly touched on increased operators perhaps providing some banking services, whether they are pilot programs initiated by credit unions. folks are wondering what this group feels is probably one of the most viable pathways forward for access to mainstream banking, whether it is a public banking option, federal intervention or other mechanism. >> well, i think during this time, you know, individual banks, as i mentioned, more and more are coming on-line, and many of them do have capacity. obviously they want those customers who have had, you know, a good track record, have been filing all their taxes, have all their permits in place. that's the easiest way for folks to get a bank account in this new environment, and it is not easy because they do do an extensive background check, and if there's anything in your history, it may kic

jeremy? >> jeremy schwartz here. so reverting back to banking, certainly an exciting development regarding the $50,000 -- the potential for up to $50,000 for a bridge loan. treasurer ma certainly touched on increased operators perhaps providing some banking services, whether they are pilot programs initiated by credit unions. folks are wondering what this group feels is probably one of the most viable pathways forward for access to mainstream banking, whether it is a public banking option, federal intervention or other mechanism. >> well, i think during this time, you know, individual banks, as i mentioned, more and more are coming on-line, and many of them do have capacity. obviously they want those customers who have had, you know, a good track record, have been filing all their taxes, have all their permits in place. that's the easiest way for folks to get a bank account in this new environment, and it is not easy because they do do an extensive background check, and if there's anything in your history, it may kic

i for one, jeremy, hope he's not taking it. if we go to the patterns, the patterns of what we learn about trump and his health are not truthful. he had the doctor, i believe dr. bornstein, who described him as, you know, the most vibrant,

our white house correspondent jeremy diamond is joining us. jeremy, there are serious questions tonight about the fate of the cdc director. what are you learning? >> reporter: there certainly are, wolf, questions about redfield's future as head of a critical agency in this fight against the coronavirus pandemic, a senior administration official telling our colleague kristen holmes that there have been conversations about the fate of the cdc director. last week we were told that the white house had confidence in the cdc's director. we know there have been tensions for week now between the cdc and the white house. amidst all of that we heard the preside president, we were told that behind closed doors, wolf, that he criticized the cdc in a lunch with republican senators. publicly, wolf, we're not seeing the president attack the cdc director, but we're seeing him attack many, many others. in fact, wolf, it seems like this is part of a pattern by the president to divert and distract from this pandemic. in particular, wolf, we're seeing the preside

after initial pleasantries over the and jeremy corbyn.er initial pleasa ntries over the birth and jeremy corbyn. after initial pleasantries over the birth of boris johnson's child, sir keir starmer went in with some very blunt and brutal questions, criticising the government's strategy. borisjohnson accepted on many counts those challenges, if not the criticism of what the government had done. the prime minister talked about bitterly regretting that epidemic, as he put it, of cases in care homes. he said shortages of ppe had been enraging. there were also clues in terms of what the government plans to do next. the new ambition, as the prime minister put it, to carry out 200,000 tests for coronavirus by the end of this month seemed to come out of the blue and might well raise eyebrows about how and when it can be achieved. and then on lockdown measures as well, the prime minister confirmed he will make a statement on sunday, setting out some changes ahead. he also said some of those changes could come into force as soon as monday. interest

jeremy, why allow dr. fauci to testify before this senate committee in a couple of weeks but not a house committee next week? >> reporter: well, i just heard from the white house press secretary, kaylee mcenenand she was explaining the chairwoman of the house appropriations committee spoke with the white house chief of staff mark meadows and meadows sought more information about what the subject matter covered would be and mceneny said it was about hhs funding which they felt was not the appropriate topic for dr. fauci to speak about. the house appropriations committee has characterized this as the white house blocking this testimony and suggesting that there's no real grounds for them to do so. the white house press secretary told me that they would be open to allowing administration officials to testify before the house in the future but says -- but she said it needed to be in good faith. listen. >> we're working in good faith. we're working in good faith and yes we want to work with the house to ensure

cnn white house correspondent jeremy diamond joins us now. jeremy, what are we hearing from president obama today about how this administration is handling the pandemic? >> reporter: well, ana, it was just a week ago that we heard that former president obama on a call with alumni of his administration, called this administration's response to the coronavirus pandemic anemic and spotty, even saying that it has been an absolute chaotic disaster. those remarks, though, were private and were leaked publicly, but now, we are seeing president obama taking his criticisms of this administration's response to the coronavirus pandemic far more public. today, making remarks to graduates of historically black colleges and universities, suggesting those in charge of the response don't know what they're doing. >> more than anything, this pandemic has fully finally torn back the curtain on the idea that so many of the folks in charge know what they're doing. a lot of them aren't even pretending to be in charge. >> reporter: and those comments by the former

all right, jeremy diamond at the white house, thanks very much. as we talk about the potential for viral spread within the west wing, i want to make sure all of you have an idea of the west wing's layout and what type of quarters staffers work there each day. you can see the oval office in the bottom center. the chief of staff in the vice president's office to the left of, that and the press briefing room, that's the top right. joining us now is a professor with the department of epidemiology at ucla and dr. rachelle wolinsky, chief of the decision of infectious diseases at massachusetts general hospital. thanks to both you have for joining us. professor, the west wing, i don't know if you have ever been there, but i spent seven years covering the white house, is so much smaller than anyone would imagine. three floors, but it's very tight hallways, very small, closed off rooms. people are working in incredibly concentrated areas. what do we know about this virus and the potential that it could spread in a place like that? >> we know that the virus

jeremy bash, former chief of staff at cia and the pentagon, former chief counsel to house intel. dr. anne rimoin, a professor of epidemiology at ucla, where she also runs the university's center for global and immigrant health specializing in emerging infectious diseases. good evening and welcome to you all. ashley, i'd like to begin with you. you've been reporting on jared kushner's role in pandemic response in the west wing. how does this complaint by the whistle-blower, dr. bright -- how do some of the allegations in that mesh with your "washington post" reporting? >> it's striking, the similarities between the whistle-blower complaint and another complaint that we reported on today that was filed by a volunteer under jared kushner's sort of shadow task force to house oversight on april 8th. and this volunteer was one of about two dozen young men and women, very smart, hardworking, talented, who came from private equity consulting firms to washington to volunteer their time to try to help with this. and what this whistle-blower wrote in this complaint, which sort of echos dr.

thank you, jeremy. thank you b so much. >>> top health officials going into quarantine and the president is worried that the virus is spreading inside the white house. you heard jeremy say will undersut his message it's time for america to get back to business and the outbreak is waning. with nearly 80,000 americans dead. that sound like waning to you? st visionworks locations are open and we're here to help. if you have an essential eyecare need, visit our website to get connected to one of our doctors. visionworks. see the difference. which is why when it comes to his dentures only new poligrip cushion and comfort will do. the first and only formula with adaptagrip cushioning technology. choose new poligrip cushion and comfort. for an everyday item to become dangerous. tide pods child-guard pack helps keep your laundry pacs in a safe place and your child safer. to close, twist until it clicks. tide pods child-guard packaging. ♪ hey! that's mine. i'll buy you a pony. advanced hydration isn't just for k

jeremy, i'm going to start with you. i want to get your reaction to something we heard from the president tonight. listen to this. >> i really believe you can go to parks, you can go to beaches, you keep the spread, you stay away a certain amount. and us really think the public has been incredible. that's one of the the reasons we're successful. if you call losing 80 or 0,000 people successful, but it's one of the reasons that we're not at that high end of the plain opposed to the low. >> that number has changed. >> it's going up. i used to say 65,000. now i'm saying 80 or 0. it goes up rapidly. >> so the president has had to acknowledge the relate that the death count keeps going up at the same time he's calling for states to open. so what gives here? >> well, us i think this is just the latest instance of mixed messaging, which has been the response from the very beginning. we have seen the president trien opt the one hand to offer hope. sometimes hope that turns out to be false hope, while at the same time having his

jeremy, thank you for that report. the cdc has just issued the new recommendations for churches and places of worship that the white house and the president was referring to this afternoon. let's get straight to nick valencia live in atlanta who has been all over these issues at the cdc, great reporting. nick, what do you see and hear today and how does that compare with what you saw, even what the public wasn't supposed to see, that the cdc had prepared beforehand? >> reporter: one of the more interesting points is just how it starts out, dana, saying that this is nonbinding public health guidance. it's language we really haven't seen at all, not in the drafts that were leaked to the press or really any of the final products that have come out from the cdc. these recommendations were anticipated for weeks and we got our hands on it first. here are some of the details laid out the in the recommendations. providing protections for high risk staff and congregants, supply soap, hand sanitizer, taushs, tissues, no-touch tr

>> cnn's jeremy diamond is live at the white house joining me now. we just heard from the president speaking to reporters as he was on his way out. jeremy, he had a lot to say when he left the white house. what sticks out to you? >> reporter: he certainly did, kate, and one of the questions i and other reporters asked the question about was about these new models showing increased projections of numbers of deaths of coronavirus in some of the states as they begin to reopen their economies. the president, though, seemed unfazed by that, and he claimed these projections were based on no mitigation. listen. >> it's a report and that's a report with no mitigation. so based on no mitigation, but we're doing a lot of mitigation, and frankly, when the people report back, they're going to be social distancing, and they're going to be washing their hands and they're going to be doing the things that you're supposed to do. we won't be going into stadiums full bore yet, you know, for events and soccer and football and all of the different events. baseball, i ho