we also are joined by jeremy cruz. we're off, he's a managing editor of covert action magazine. my thanks to both of you gentlemen. for joining us, maybe we start with that one. we've got about 7 clips that i'm going to play of richard nixon, which says a lot about him about the times and about our world even today. we'll start with that one. and then do you a mix in almost died being still disrespected and thought of as a really bad guy? was it? well i think it to you compared to i think as far as presidents go, i think he doesn't stand out to me is uniquely bad. as you say, he was liberal in some ways and not liberal because he wanted to be. it was different times people were demanding more and you gave him some of those demands. you know, he wouldn't even signed a national health care, you know, medicare for all except the a f l. c i o opposed it. because that was one of the things they organized their people, how much more liberal yeah. how, how more liberal can you be. but again, part of it is the times, but he was, you know, the one thing interesting about him was that he