. >> jeremy haass from middle east initiative. i was wondering if you could speak a little bit more on what nato's role was after the fall of tripoli, especially when gadhafi's forces were limited, and the tnc was much more on the offensive than it had been previously. how did nato's role change during that time, did you guys coordinate with the tnc with regard to protecting civilians? in a more advisory role, as opposed to taking more pragmatic -- or practical actions? i was wondering what your specific role was in that. >> well, even after the fall of tripoli, the threat against civilian population continues. and certain people were still being killed. and banny walid, as i stated before, so the threat continued. but one of the things we discovered is that as the hunter became -- stopped hunting, if you wish, our approach to it, as well, when civilians were not dying, we pulled back. we stopped doing some of the engagement that we did, and we pulled back, and more watch -- overwatched the situation and made sure that nothing cou