jeremy nixon, good to see you and thanks forjoining us. d jeremy, let's start with this because we've seen all these heat waves and floods and export bans on rice from india. just to take a few examples, i'm wondering how is that playing out in terms of transporting goods and the costs of that? great to talk to you. i thinkjust generally, in terms of of crops, you know, we move a lot of products still in containers which are commodity related. so, you know, for example, the rice ban in india in the last couple of weeks, i mean, as an industry, we move actually a lot of rice in containers. and so we won't be moving so many containers of rice out of india. but the final markets where that indian rice was being consumed will now have to source rice out of other markets. so the product will still have to move. and it's very similar with the fruit and vegetables, the proteins and the meats that we move. we often see some seasonality reason or some political tariffs coming in in one particular location, and therefore countries stop sourcing from

well, on that point, jeremy nixon, the big boss of ocean network express, always good to see you. thanks for your time and i'll check in with you soon. so so far in the show, we've been talking about the new threats to food supply and how they could drive up prices. and that could mean anything from starvation for some to rising costs of living and interest rates for others. one thing is that it might touch everyone on the planet. and i tell you what, many, many people around the world also shop using my next guest company. we're talking wal—mart. it's the biggest retailer in the world, and she's in charge of the entire business outside of the united states. judith mckenna, a real pleasure having you on my show. and judith, on this week's show, we've been talking about the impact of extreme weather on food prices, including the ban of most rice exports from india. and just at a time, judith, when we started to see food prices falling, do you think prices will inevitably start rising again? hi, aaron. it's a pleasure to be here. listen, i think the world, the economy, this conflict