and the playwright, jeremy o. harris joins us now. he is also the director of the new documentary. t in the doc, and i say it all the time. i don't tell people what slave play is about. i invite them to watch it. watch it, read it, or google it. everything's on wikipedia. the minute i tell you it becomes a fact. >> so why then now this documentary? >> well, so the documentary it's too convoluted a process of how i ended up making the documentary, but the reason why now is because i think that i'm a theater advocate, right? i'm like a theater supremacist, if you will, and part of my excitement about this documentary is that it gets to exist like that great ephemera of theater that used to exist all around us in the '60s, '70s, '80s inside the actor's studio or the penny baker doc about company, which was like a failed musical but someone decided we need to like have this documentation of this amazing -- a moment when people were trying and failing to commit this musical to a sound track. so i'm like i want to add to that history as well and give fans of both the theater, new people w