or is this just, as i said earlier, when jeremy paxton made his speech, he felt he had to. of course we accept that the government is doing these terrible things, but we weren't. i would be astonished with the way the media is and world of politics, if you don't get attention back and forth, and i have no doubt if it was untrue we would be on the phone saying you shouldn't be writing it. but i think that's a very different thing from saying don't bully journalists. the best evidence is reading the lobby note. see who was under pressure and who wasn't. >> i think the masters of the arts. they tended to pick on junior reporters or producers. >> no. but that's my poin really. # that in the end they received this. i have no doubt we used to complain strongly. we thought the stories were wrong. but i always felt that their actual pushback against us is for the first time the neighborhood ran an effective operation where we were able, and also, we were in circumstances where for the first time politically the labor party was able to go on a win with successions. i felt you had to