jeremy peter, political reporter for "the new york times." ashley parker, white house reporter for "the washington post," and robert costa, national political reporter for "the washington post" and moderator of "washington week" on pbs. ashley parker, let me start with you, because you and i started this conversation earlier today. and i want to ask you two things. one, what other details have emerged since we last talked? and what is the white house's current posture on someone who was indisputed -- is beyond dispute that steve bannon was for a very long period of time not only an ideological soul mate of this president's, but one of the closest advisers, someone that donald trump didn't dare subject to reporting to a chief of staff. when donald trump became president, reince priebus was given a rather extraordinary title in that he was named basically an equal to then chief of staff reince priebus. >> i'll answer your second question first, which is the white house's posture is basically steve who? he is but a mere staffer. don't know the g

all of this and what it says about the trump white house, i'm joined by "usa today", susan page, jeremy peters and elise jordan. susan, let me start with you on that clip we just played, how bannon is handling all of this. had bannon sort of been shooting his mouth off to michael wolf and he's as surprised as all of us to see how this looks in print or was this part of a calculated meditated strategy? listening to him today sure sounds like he's in a defensive crouch here. >> you know, he was defensive in some ways but in no way tried to refute the most explosive things he was quoted as saying. he didn't say he didn't say them. he didn't say i thought i was speaking off the record and that is -- that -- in washington speak, that amounts to a confirmation that these quotes are things that he did say and that he intended to say, things that he believes. so i took that as a -- what we might call a nondenial denial in his comments today on his radio show. >> what's it going to mean, jeremy peters. you've been doing some reporting on this. we have the clip, sarah huckabee sanders, breitbart news, t

and jeremy peters with the "new york times." and john hiel. former democratic congresswoman donna edwards, now a senior fellow at the brennan department of justice. mark, let me start with you, you had some blockbuster reporting over the holidays that we're going to get to in a moment. this ongoing war against his own justice department is the thing that he has done that i have heard the most consternation from some of the most conservative figures in sort of the republican legal circles, people like ted olsen, former solicitor general, i think congressman pete king from new york, worried about the politics of that, that the republican party could ultimately unbrand itself as a party that's aligned itself in law enforcement. does your reporting about this hot war against the justice department reveil aal any consternation of any of the apintees at the department department at this point? >> it's unclear whether there's among the political appointees, whether they feel embattled or they feel that the president is after them, you know, certainly

jeremy peters is the one to talk about on this topic. thank you for being on the broadcast. >> thank you. >> a development between the north and south korea a month before the attention will be focused on the peninsula, we will go there next. >>> well, we'll put it in your head earlier. it is hard to believe that one month from tonight, we'll hear that music for real. the winter olympics will be under way in pyeongchang, south korea, 50 miles give or take from north korea, which makes this an ideal time for the north and the south to hold their first face to face meeting in two years. the meeting will determine whether the north can send delegations to the games. many people would believe if the north had a stake in the game's and actual skin in the game as it were. it would be good. many believe that talks of any kind will have a deescalating and calming effect. they suspect this is an attempt to drive a wedge between seoul and american allies. the u.s. can take any kind of military action against pyongyang. on that front, the journal a

jeremy peters. nversation, peter baker from "the new york times" and editor in chief of buzz feed, ben smith. you guys are in the news this morning. good to have you on. >> thank you. >> joe, we bumped in with more of that meeting. i find it -- it's the most transfixing 55 minutes i've ever seen and i think it says so much. >> donald trump is very glad to hear that you said that, mika because, you know -- hey, last week when stephen miller was on and yelling at jake tapper -- >> right. >> wait a second. i saw this in the first season of trump, the american president. the reality president. are they showing reruns? so yesterday, i think yesterday, we've got season two of the crown, which i finished that. >> you love that, yeah. >> incredible. i think this was the debut episode of season two, trump the american president, the reality show president. and maybe he's doing a sort of -- maybe jr goes from bad to good and bobby goes from good to bad like they did in "dallas." >> i think it's more of a game

"new york times" reporter, jeremy peters. let's get this in. the trump administration spent much of the weekend fighting back against michael wolff's book with a full-on offensive on the sunday shows and tweets by the president. in a string of early morning tweets saturday, the president defended his mental fitness, claiming now that russian collusion, after one year of intense study, has proven to be a total hoax on the american public, the democrats and their lapdogs, fake news mainstream media are taking out the old ronald reagan playbook and screaming mental stability and intelligence. he goes on. actually, throughout my life, my two greatest assets have been mental stability and being like really smart. >> like really smart. >> why did he put "like" in there? >> like, you know, kind of like. >> is he doing valley girl speak in a tweet? you wasted six characters? >> i guess that's -- >> not very smart. >> in the 1960s, like -- >> like -- >> should tell him not to put like in there. crooked hillary also played these cards very hard and, as e

." >> jeremy peters, it is great to have you on our broadcast.teve bannon used the royal "we" on behalf of a movement when he says things like mitch mcconnell were coming for you, we are coming after you. does he have a constiuency? >> that's the funny thing of revolution, brian. that's what's happening to steve bannon at this moment. it is difficult to see where his constituent si is. his backers in the mercers, i don't know how you build a movement if you don't have political capital and financial capital. that's what bannon lacks at this moment. >> where does a statement like that comes from and walks back something about don jr. , is it because his funding was threaten, do you think? >> i think it is a few things. his job is in danger. he could be forced out of chairman. so you have that and you also have the fact that as bannon tries to build what he hopes will one day be an apparatus that supplies the modern republican party. he lacks credibility and he did not have, not just the financial backing but political backing of the people who are

jonathan swan, jeremy peters, jill winebanks. thanks. >>> coming up on a thursday night, the house passes this short-term fix to keep the government open but the senate is a different matter and they are off duty for the night. new cracks in the relationship between the president and shall we say his current chief of staff and what looked like a campaign rally, the white house insists was really all about tax policy today in pittsburgh. that and more, we're just getting started on a thursday night. jimmy's gotten used to his whole room smelling like sweaty odors. yup, he's gone noseblind. he thinks it smells fine, but his mom smells this... luckily there's febreze fabric refresher for all the things you can't wash. it finds odors trapped in fabrics and washes them away as it dries. and try pluggable febreze to continuously eliminate odors for up to 45 days of freshness. pluggable febreze and fabric refresher. two more ways to breathe happy. >>> senator schumer, do not shut down the federal government. do not jeopardize funding fo

that steve bannon is stepping down from his position as executive chairman of breitbart news, jeremy peters who broke the story for the "new york times" spoke to me on the phone. jeremy, big, big deal and a big statement in favor of donald trump from breitbart. >> that's absolutely right, nicole, i mean what you saw happen here over the last few days has forced an inevitable conclusion for steve bannon and to a career at a website that he helped put at the forefront of american 3politics. it reshaped the way we look at immigration, it reshaped the way we look at donald trump and right now steve bannon is walking away hanging his head low. >> and jeremy, i think we have got the breitbart headline announcing news about themselves, breitbart also normalizing some of the darker forces, if you talk to traditional republicans, people like me in the least, that certainly the reputation of breitbart inside the republican party. what kind of a statement is this that they want to stand by a president whose one big legislative accomplishment was something that benefits corporates and who in a meeting

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jeremy peters is a reporter for "the new york times" and a msnbc contributor. casey, paul ryan is confident the house can pass the cr, where where does this vote stand right now? >> chris, i don't think the stress about the government shutdown is centered on the house of representatives right now. there's been concern about defense talks behind the scenes inhappy with this doesn't give certainty to the military, but, frankly, the speaker was pretty confident when he spoke to roerlg reporters earlier. he said it's pretty rare. we're going to watch for surprises in the planned vote, but the focus is in the senate. unlike yesterday where i would have told you something a little bit different, it's really starting to feel like a shutdown is inevitable. >> how does this happen? every single last week, i was asking people, they were sounding as though this could be voided. what happened between then and now? >> both sides have basically made the conclusion that it's worse for them to be the person who gives n. so the incentives are such that republicans are trying to

let me ask you, jeremy peters, about this leaked document axios is reporting on. it is the best window to where lindsey graham and dick durbin's plan was derailed. they had a bipartisan agreement on immigration issues. this is a document -- this is trump world scathing assessment of the immigration proposal as pitched to the president by lindsey graham and dick durbin. this is what homeland security and justice officials drafted for the president. they said that their compromise failed to secure the border and increases illegal immigration and guarantees a.m.ness advertise, increases chain migration and fails to end the visa lottery. i think at least four of those things which on their face false. how is the president so easily manipulated by the hard liners on his own policy staff? how does he not know this issue at least by now? >> the president knows that the only people he has left at this point are his hard core supporters, his base. it's anywhere from 30 to 38% of the electorate at this point and it's not getting any bigger. so, when he goes out there and ag

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joining me now, ali vitaly and jeremy peters. jeremy, i'm going to start with you here. the trump/bannon feud. you've been writing about the fallout here. i want your reaction to the latest response he gave to axios. do you think it's too late to fix things between these two titans? >> never say never with donald trump, of course, alex, he has a long history of excommunicating aides and inviting them back into the fold. look at corey lewandowski, look at roger stone. they've all said terrible things about one another. however, to suggest that this isn't a severe, severe breach between steve bannon and president trump would be fantasy land. this is bad. >> did you -- >> and steve's political capital is on the line if it -- if any really is left at this point. >> do you have a sense, jeremy, of where the line was crossed? was it going after don jr.? was it hitting the family? or is it enough just to hit the president hard? >> it was the family. and that's what bannon is attempting to clarify in this statement. he is saying, look, i didn't go after don jr. i didn't intend t

contributor, and "the new york times" congressional correspondent and an msnbc contributor, and jeremy petersforetimes political reporter and our msnbc contributor as well. from your reporting, what has happened in this fight, this internal republican fight. bannon could be the big loser if he has lost the mercers. he might even lose breitbart. the board is thinking of firing him. >> steve's job is not secure at breitbart. he may not be there for very much longer. his job is so involved there. having lost the support of rebecca mercer, if she is working to get him out, he could be in danger. the larger question is whether or not he can survive apart from trump. if he purports to be the voice of trumpism, of the nationalist, populist conservatism that swept across the country, if that's his job, how can he do that if trump is saying i want nothing to do with you. >> trump tweeted that the mercer family recently dumped the leaker known as sloppy steve bannon. smart! that's just one of the tweets. this has real implications. bannon has not even been able to open a bank account with the republica

we're going to start discussion now with eric mcpike, adviser for media group of america, and jeremy peters, reporter for the "new york times." jeremy, to you first. does this shutdown feel different to you in rhetoric and in efforts to end it than it did in 2013? i have sensed that it feels more personal to people. >> it definitely seems more personal, alex, between the key players in the senate and the white house. there's no doubt that just schumer attacking the president yesterday the way he did saying it's like negotiating with jell-o, that was meant to cut to donald trump's core. his image is this master negotiator. chuck schumer and democrats are really trying to undercut. one difference from the 2013 shutdown is that there just doesn't seem to be the urgency to resolve the situation right now. and that's because if you look back at what happened then and you look even as far back as the 1995-1996 shutdowns, which at the time were pinned mostly on republicans, the republicans didn't pay much of a long-term political price for that. they went back in '96 and picked up a couple seats i

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betsy woodruff joins us, along with jeremy peters, "new york times" political reporter and msnbc contributor. jeremy, the "new york times" is now reporting bannon has also been subpoenaed to testify to mueller and his team. what can you tell us about that? >> the significance of that subpoena is that bannon is the first person that we know of inside the trump inner circle to receive a subpoena. the others who have been called to answer questions by mueller and his investigators have done so voluntarily and in informal settings. this would seem to be a game changer, because it represents possibly an escalation in robert mueller's hardball tactics. you saw him raid, of course, the apartment of paul manafort and these acts may be, we think, designed to pressure steve bannon into cooperating. it's sending a signal to him look, we expect you to tell us what you know. now, what we don't know is, of course, what steve bannon knows. he was there during key moments of planning during the trump campaign. however, he didn't join the campaign until mid-august, two and a half months before election day,

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hang out for the next bit of the conversation, too, because i want to bring in jeremy peters to talk a little bit more about what else we have seen over the last 24 to 48 hours, jeremy. and that has been this non-apology apology from the president's former chief strategist, playing into not just the russia investigation after bannon's comments to michael wolff in the book "fire and fury," but what appears to be a walk-back from him. what do you know? >> exactly, hallie. there were no words "i'm sorry" in that statement. this was something bannon issued very reluctantly, i'm told. up until the last minute, he was waivering on whether or not not to do it. and his aides essentially forced his hand. bannon is not something who views apologies as something gracious. he views them as signs of weakness. and he didn't want to go out there and back pedal. his whole mo whenned a viszing the president during the campaign n the white house, was do not back down. famously, bannon was behind the infa mouse momemous moments of president including the incidents of saying good people were involved in

joining me now, reporter for "the new york times," jeremy peters.hite house reporter for "the washington post," ashley parker. columnist at "the washington post" and msnbc contributor eugene robinson. and former chief of staff for the cia and department of defense and msnbc national security analyst jeremy bash. thanks to all of you for coming in on a sunday night. eugene, i have to start with you. because the questions all morning this morning have been, is this president a racist or not? >> that was certainly horrendously racist thing he's said. it's not the first racist thing he's said. he's got a long history of saying and doing racist things. so you don't have to try to get to the existential core of a person because in the end, that's an unanswerable question. you can judge and assess what he says and what he does and what he says and what he does is racist. >> ashley, is this out of line with behavior we've seen from the president before? does it stand apart worse than some of the other examples eugene referenced? >> it's not out of line at a

peter baker, phil rucker, eli stokels and jeremy bash are all still here. i want to ask you, jeremy bash, about this hot war with the fansful deep state which is i guess arguably the federal government now led by donald trump and his political appoint ease. but i want to read you a tweet he fired off this morning writing -- before 8:00 a.m. crooked hillary clinton's top aide has been accused of disregarding basic security prot tote cols. she put classified passwords into the hands of foreign agents. remember sailors pictures on submarine? jail! deep state justice department must finally act also on comey and others. no punctuation there. jeremy bash, let me ask you about two responses that caught my attention. one from jack goldsmith who is one of the most conservative and one of the most respected among the most conservative legal minds in america. he ran the office of legal policy under the george w. bush white house. he wrote this is the deep state run by trump appointees, chris rey the head of the fbi, jeff sessions of the head of the justice department

peter, thank you. >>> let's turn to jeremy bash. good morning. >> good morning, savannah. >> let's set aside for a moment just how remarkable and uned to be saying, essentially, my nuclear button is bigger than yours. what does kim jong-un hear? that's what matters the most? does it make it more likely that we'll get into some kind of conflict? >> if kim jong-un thinks he's about to be annihilated, and make no mistake, these joouf na juvenile and immature tweets suggest that, kim jong-un is likely to lash out, to maybe use chemical weapons at our military base in guam. this is very destabilizing. this is a tweet that could lead to confrontation and maybe even war. >> last year the president talked about unleashing fire and fury, the likes of which the world has never seen. now this about the nuclear button. if this is strategy to deter kim jong-un, is it working? >> i don't think so. in the last six months, savannah, you've seen kim jong-un engage in five hig he's flight tested twice a intercontinental ballistic missile that could h

joining us from washington chief white house correspondent analyst peter baker, robert costa, national political reporter and msnbc analyst, jeremy bash, msnbc national security analyst and former chief of staff at the cia and the pentagon. and with us at the table, brett stevens, "the new york times" op-ed columnist, and daily beast reporter, both msnbc contributors. peter baker, let me start with you. i am not a racist, the new, i am not a crook? >> yeah, you know, if your president of the united states and you're busy telling people you're not a racist, you're losing an argument. on the other hand maybe he thinks this does play well with the base as josh dawsey said. they did not deny this at first. very curious in fact they didn't deny it. well, look, he uses salty language, uses tough language, butways trying to make a point. nobody said the reports that came out at first, my paper as well as the washington post and others, all confirmed were wrong. it's only really days later that they began to try to slice the apple between s-hole and s-house as you said. it's a lot of slicing and dicing of words. there was a time bill cli

contribute tore and columnist darrell peters, and editorial page editor ruth marcus and michael steele from the republican national committee chair. welcome, all. first, jeremy, to you. the whole bannon fallout from the book. we interviewed michael wolff yesterday just beforehand, and a question, of course, of how much steve bannon is excommunicated from the president. he said he's still going to be in politics, but without that platform of breitbart news, he's sort of left on his own. >> without breitbart, without the backers who thought he had a path to the president and without the base via the president. this is a big deal, andrea. i do think we need to look at this in more than just a context of a personality feud and a personnel falling out. >> this is the republican party. >> this is the fight for the soul of the republican party. does steve bannon's departure and, subsequently, donald trump's decision to go to davos, his alignment with mitch mcconnell and paul ryan, his display of willingness to negotiate and compromise on immigration, show that donald trump is foregoing, rejecting the populist national sentiments that really got him elected as presi

about this more now with peter morgan, who works with young homeless people in manchester and recently wrote his first novel, spice boys, about spice users in the city. jeremyu agree that banning the drug has made it worse for some people, because it puts it into the hands of the dealers and without packaging, users have no idea how strong the strain is they're have no idea how strong the strain is they‘ re taking ? have no idea how strong the strain is they're taking? yes, i agree because it makes it more accessible. ie the person pedalling it will bring it to you first thing in the morning and then you have your spice. you can go begging, get the money, pay him off and he will lay you back on. it is easily accessible. the home office tell us today that the ban on these su bsta nces today that the ban on these substances has given the police the power to arrest hundreds of dealers, some of whom are behind bars with more cases progressing through the courts, the use of psycho active su bsta nces courts, the use of psycho active substances has fallen significantly they say since the government outlawed legal highs in 2016. the first offenders have been convi

peter, if i was your mom, i'd say put on a hat or at least go inside. thank you. stay warm. >> reporter: thanks. >> joining us nower is jeremy p and robert costa.ent left washington on a high. he just got tax reform passed, signed, delivered to the country. good moment for the republicans. how are they going to kind of try to capitalize on that up feeling and what do they think they can get done that's significant in the first few months of this year in. >> inside of the white house, katty, one view is that the president needs to be a salesman on the tax bill, hit the campaign trail knowing the midterms could be a possible trouble point for the republican party as there are some unease among suburban voters about the trump agenda. on capitol hill you have a willingness to deal that doug jones, the democrat from alabama is in the senate. it's a narrow 51-seat gop majority, and the challenge for the white house is not just going after the government funding which expires on january 19th, but can they come up with anything else that's a large legislative item such as infrastructure in the early part of 2018. it's about checking the boxes and keepi