while white house press secretary, jeremy saki on monday, said the president would sign an executive order that will quote, prohibit new investment trade and financing by u. s. persons to from or in the regions. joining us not just is blue bus co host an investigative journalist, then swan, i've been let's start with the broad here. what's the impact of the move to recognize these regions as independent? calling the impact is pretty large so far. i mean, obviously what we're already seen is you just mentioned gin, saki, insane on monday that already the, by the ministration is going to sign the executive order that essentially issue sanctions on these regions, right? remember, as you guys and lead up here, these 2 regions declared independence about 8 years ago, back in 2014, around the same time of crimea. they're not saying they're a part of russia they use. they're just saying they're independent. but because russia and russian president vladimir putin said on monday that he also recognizes that independence, then the biden administration is going to issue sanctions against the pe