find a way out of what seems to be a state of permanent war for more on this i'm joined now by jeremy scahill national security correspondent for the nation and author and producer of the new book and film project dirty wars the war is a battlefield jeremy welcome. thank you tom thanks for joining us great to have you back with us your book and film are titled dirty wars why did you call for that title why did. well you know i think that what we've seen over the past five years of the obama administration is an attempt to sort of portray the drone wars and the cruise missile attacks that the obama administration has really expanded as a clean form of warfare the idea that there's not many civilian deaths as a result of them that you know twenty or thirty leading figures of al qaeda have been taken down and that this is somehow an alternative to the large scale troop deployments that marked the bush cheney era and i wanted to just take a take that full frontal and say there is no such thing first of all as a clean war but secondly the so-called clean wars are actually killing a tremendous numb

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jeremy scahill joins me tonight. he is a national security correspondent for "the nation" magazine, author of the book "dirty wars." the producer of the movie of the same name. it's such an amazing thing to have you here. this book is an unbelievable accomplishment. the movie is an incredible accomplishment. and anyone watching this, people that know your work from "the nation," what i want to emphasize about this book, whatever your politics, you should read this book. it is an incredibly carefully report. people who come to this book expecting a polemic. it shows a side of our unending wars that we haven't seen. >> one of the things really fascinating to me about the process is i met a lot of guys from if special ops community and cia community because of my work on black water. i got numerous calls, people came up to me at events that i would is a i don't particularly like black water, but you were right. i developed a number of resources from the world, and they changed the way that i viewed my own politics. and

joining us now is its author, jeremy scahill. i should point out, jeremy, the book is also the subject of a documentary you yourself have made. let me start by asking you about the motivation of these two individuals. because your book suggests that the actions of america overseas have been directly provocative in terms of encouraging people in some kind of holy war against america. >> right. i mean, first of all, at the risk of seeming out of place on cable news, i don't really want to speculate as to what the motives of these guys actually were. a lot of what we understand right now -- >> that's not speculation. it's according to the -- this is according to interviews conducted at the bedside of dzhokhar tsarnaev. >> i'm saying that we're seeing these leaked into the media from investigators. if you remember what happened after the raid on osama bin laden's compound, almost every single thing that john brennan said happened in that room that night didn't happen. there wasn't the use of a woman as a human shield. you know, there

here now national security correspondent for the nation jeremy scahill, also the author of the book,ld. this looks amazing. let's start, first of all, with the book. and what, you know, the overall unveiling is in the book. what we don't know about what's going on around the world and what we're trying to carry out. >> this book tells the story of how a very popular democratic president barack obama who by trade is a constitutional lawyer expanded some of the most egregious secretive aspects around the world expanding drone strikes, using proxy forces and mercenaries, working with war lords in somalia. and expanding the battlefield that the joint special operations command operates in and also the cia, and also get very in-depth into the story of this u.s.-born radical who was killed in a drone strike in september 2011. i'm not sure many americans know this, but three u.s. citizens were killed in a two-week period in operations authorized by president obama. and one of the people killed was actually a 16-year-old u.s. citizen who was sitting having lunch -- excuse me, dinner with his

check up behind the scenes photos we take in our studios like this one from our interview with jeremy scahill on breaking the sense of course on the boat so i don't facebook page and check all that and more i took a break my promise to me here my take on the white house correspondents dinner next . for you. let me. let me ask you. this. i. this year will mark fifty years since the assassination of president john f. kennedy and my calm is a shock to some of you but even though it's been half a century there are still over fifty thousand pages of j.f.k. assassination related documents that the obama administration's refused to disclose this despite a poll conducted by the national archives and records administration which showed that disclosure of these documents is the number one public demand of them release government information and you know this is all got me thinking about the history of government classification and the most interesting documents that are still being withheld from j.f.k. to the bay of pigs to the nixon tapes to obama u.s. government has a secret history of willing then d

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. >> i think every member should read this book, jeremy scahill, author of "dirty wars" open tomorrow. emma gilligan and congressman cohen, thank you. that is "all in" for this evening. "the rachel maddow show" starts now. good evening. >> good evening, chris. thanks very much and thanks for staying with us the next hour. i have breaking news to give you right now. this is brand-new from nbc news. this is pete williams. several officials familiar with the initial interrogation of dzhokhar tsarnaev at the hospital in boston describe him as cooperative, a senior government official tells nbc news that tsarnaev has told them by writing some answers and by nodding yes or shaking his head no to others that he and his brother were not in touch with any overseas terrorists or groups. and that they conceived the bombing attack on their own, motivated he told them by religious fervor. they got their instructions on how to make bombs from the internet, he said, according to these officials. again, that is breaking news from just moments ago from pete williams at nbc news. we'll give you more on

this is a story that jeremy scahill went to investigate, former democracy now producer, with his film"dirty wars" that's coming out. he went and met with the al-awlaki family. but not only did president obama have awlaki killed, you know, without trial, without charge, a drone attack in yemen kills not only anwar al-awlaki whether you think what he is saying is right or you think it's absolutely reprehensible, he was an american citizen, and you have to ask this question should we be doing it to anyone? killing this american citizen, then two weeks later dropping another missile, bomb, drone strike on his son who was born in denver, 16 years old. what did his son do? and, actually, senator paul raised this question, what was his crime? that he was the son of his father? these are very serious questions. i would expand rand paul's questions to not only u.s. citizens, but anyone. but it was very significant what he did on that day. >> host: bill in washington, d.c., thanks for holding. you're on the air on booktv with amy goodman. >> caller: ms. goodman, how are you doing? >> guest: goo