our guest is jeremy scahill.he cowriter of the -- thetary "dirty wars world is a battle field." stay with us. ♪ [music break] in-canadianmali rapper. this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i am amy goodman with nermeen shaikh. >> the u.s. talked about the core interest in the middle east, u.s. access to oil. huxley united states is prepared to use all elements of our power , including military force, to secure our interests in the region. we will confront external aggression against our allies and partners, as we did in the gulf war. we will ensure the free flow of energy from the region to the world. >> that was president obama speaking yesterday at the u.n. general assembly. .> your response >> during this section, my jaw hit the floor. he said the united states is an imperialist nation and we will do whatever we need to to conquer resources from people around the world. it was a naked declaration of imperialism and i do not use the word lightly. he pushed back against the russians

somalia the notorious jail or prison interrogation center in at the airport there as reported by jeremy scahill so yeah the idea of blowback here is a surprise we are we are seeing. the remnants are of the outgrowth of what our policy the united states' policy it's been in the last twelve years there. on batting industrial decline while boosting economic growth the french government faces a tough agenda in the coming years as president alone tries to maneuver his country out of financial turmoil and pressures coming from both brussels underlain to make sure he fulfilled his promises and a growing you know skepticism this also has a story. this year where your promises are come on where are they the boiling over frustrate ssion caught on camera priority is employment we need to eat but at this point the bad news no longer come a surprise to many french the popular self-styled mr normal condemned for having no power to stop economic uncertainty from becoming the new normal at the resentment is palpable with only eleven percent of the french thinking their economy will improve over the next twelve

somalia the notorious jail or prison interrogation center in at the airport there as reported by jeremy scahill in which they have assisted somali government officials in interrogating. people that they've dragged off the streets in these day and. they dirty drug infested. insect infested cells underground so yeah the idea of blowback here is a surprise we are we are seeing. the remnants are of the outgrowth of what our policy the united states' policy it's been in the last twelve years there ok stephen in san francisco that's not what motivates me optimistic report there i mean i just don't see the learning curve here i mean you go in to try to stabilize somalia some only becomes a broken state a failed state and then it exports what's wrong with that country i mean what's the security interest of the united states and in trying to continue down this path of fighting terror. but even goes back further to the years united states support of the bahraini regime and his the former somali dictators brutal repression and divide rule policies which upon his overthrow in a popular uprising in early on

somalia the notorious jail or prison interrogation center in at the airport there as reported by jeremy scahill in which they have assisted somali government officials in and.

somalia the notorious jail or prison interrogation center in at the airport there as reported by jeremy scahill in which they have assisted somali government officials in interrogating. people that they've dragged off the streets in these day and. they dirty drug infested. insect infested cells underground so yeah the idea of blowback here is a surprise we are we are seeing. the remnants of the outgrowth of what our policy the united states' policy it's been in the last twelve years there ok stephen in san francisco it's the what might a very optimistic report there i mean i just don't see the learning curve here i mean you go in to try to stabilize somalia some only becomes a broken state a failed state and then it exports what's wrong with that country i mean what's the security interest of the united states and in trying to continue down this path of fighting terror. but even goes back further to the years the united states' support of the bahraini regime and his the former somali dictators brutal repression and divide rule policies which upon his overthrow in a popular uprising in early one

journalist glenn greenwald and jeremy scahill have announced that they are working together to prepare reports on the national security agency's role in the so-called us especially nation program seeking to moviegoers at the rio film festival in brazil scahill announced a partnership and provided some details on the new project however neither scahill nor greenwald provided any evidence to support claims of the existence of the assassination programs or of the n.s.a.'s role in it so far anyway scales the author of the book dirty wars the world is a battlefield and the documentary by the same name was actually created as a result of that book he has come on r.t. america numerous times to talk about america's covert wars take a look. moving back to a narrow like the one nine hundred eighty s. when the u.s. was fueling all of these dirty wars in central america nicaragua honduras el salvador and elsewhere i mean the under the obama administration we have kind of full spectrum covert war you have the drone strikes continuation of the use of mercenaries use of special operations forces crui

also here journalist jeremy scahill, he reported on al shabaab for the nation magazine, also the book dirty wars. i am pleased to have all of them here. let's begin with you. tell us who al shabaab is. >> and what is whatting to them. >> al shabaab is a group that started in 2006 with the foremation of the islamic course union in mogadishu somalia. >> rose: '96. >>> i'm sorry n 2006. essentially, a failed state in somalia and islamic course union came to govern. and then this is a more radical wing. the more militant armed wing. when the al shabaab started, there was also east africa al qaeda cell which was hiding, the ones who were responsible for the '98 bombings of our embassies in nairobi and tanzania. they were basically undercover hiding in somalia. and they lifted their head, i would say essentially hijacked the al shabaab movement. so the islamic course union always had moderate elements, civil society element, and more radical and extreme elements and these became the militant, military wing of it. >> rose: what would you add to that eli? >> well, i would say that at this poi

had -- >> joining me now is jeremy scahill, my colleague at "the nation" magazine where he's nationalecurity correspondent. he is also author of "dirty wars," producer and writer of the film by the same name. jerry, you were in somalia. there's footage of you being on a rooftop with incoming fire from al shabaab fighters, basically. what do you make of the conflicting reports about whether al shabaab or al qaeda did it, and who is al shabaab and how are they different from al qaeda? >> right, well, first of all, al shabaab was a group of relative nobodies in 2006 during the bush administration. they were a sort of outlier in a group called the islamic courts union, which was largely made up of almost exclusively made up of somali actors. and these actors meaning players on the scene in somalia. and al shabaab was the sort of group among those that sort of had the most allegiance to al qaeda or affinity for osama bin laden's message, but they had no political sway whatsoever domestically within somalia. the u.s. partnered with the ethiopian military in 2006/2007 and staged an invasion