amy: and we will speak with jeremy scahill a about trump's r on whihistleblowers. >> we're at an extxtremely dangerous s moment in the histoy of this country. donaldld trump is using ththe se rhetoric used byby nazi officias in the 1930's and d 1940's to attack thehe press. he said he wantnts to jaill journalists who publilish storis and wielding the espionage act like a chainsaw against journalistic sources. amy: all that and more, coming up. welcome to democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. the united states has charged wikileaks founder julian assange with violating the u.s. espionage act. on thursday, the justice department announced 17 new charges against assange over his role in the 2010 chelsea manning leaks in a case that many are warning poses a grave threat to the first amendment. this is the first time a publisher has been charged under the world war i-era law. assange faces up to 10 years in prison for each count of violating the espionage act. up to 170 years in prison. as the news broke, trevor timm of the freedom of the press foundation sa

amy: that is jeremy scahill in 2015 when the whole drone expose was printed in the intercept. notjustice department does name the intercept or jeremy scahill in the 17 page indictment, but media outlets have quoted senior top administration officials saying it is jeremy scahill and the intercept. it is also interesting that jeremy references chelsea manning being in jail. that was then in 2015. she was sent back to jail. she just came out yesterday after 62 days after a grand jury disbanded and she could not be held in the longer. , if you can talk about the emphasis that media outlets around this coununtry ae putting on -- who was daniel hale? who did he week the documents to as oppososed to the content of what he was leaking? and what you're saying at the intercept? >> right. i think one of the things that for many years has really bothered me is the way them media, the mainstream media covers these stories. they cover it as if there is a hunt for a criminal rather than a story about a whistleblower coming forward to perform a public service. and d that has always bothered e

winds up with information that was given to the intercept which is an online publication and to jeremy scahill now that is not being confirmed at this point the intercept is not confirming that but some people some people are seeming to speculate that that's the case let's review what the intercepts said when asked about whether or not this was their source who was arrested the intercept does not come until matters relating to the identity of anonymous sources these documents detail to secrets on the council process for targeting and killing people around the world including u.s. citizens through drone strikes they all reverted to import since the alleged faces up to 50 years in prison no one has ever been held accountable for killing civilians in drone strikes now the information that many people suspect of this matches is information that was revealed by reporter jeremy scahill regarding the u.s. drone strike program in which strikes were carried out in yemen somalia and afghanistan now what was revealed were classified government documents showing a 14 year high drone strike campaign and ho

and that the book in reference is the drone papers which is a book that jeremy scahill published now the out that has neither confirmed nor denied that that is the case and that this is their source let's review some of what has been revealed about the case. the intercept does not come in all matters relating to the identity of anonymous sources these documents detail to secrets on the council process for targeting and killing people around the world including u.s. citizens through drone strikes they all revised to limp since the alleged faces up to fifty years in prison no one has ever been held accountable for killing civilians in drone strikes. now the information that was revealed referred to the us drone strike program and which strikes were carried out in yemen somalia and afghanistan now the document reveals that during the fourteen year high of the drone program there was apparently incalculable civilian deaths and that there was a preference for assassination rather than capture and furthermore it was revealed that the u.s. officials have very little ability to extract the n

that it's possible he could be the person that leaked information to the intercept and reporter jeremy scahill that was later published in his book the drone paper's however the intercept has refused to confirm or deny that this was indeed their source this is what was said by the intercept the intercept does not comment on matters relating to the identity of anonymous sources these documents detail the secrets on accountable process for targeting and killing people around the world including u.s. citizens through drone strikes they all revised to limp since the alleged whistleblower faces up to 50 years in prison no one has ever been held accountable for killing civilians in drawing strikes now the information that was published by the intercept seems to indicate that there is a high civilian death toll in the u.s. drone warfare operations that have been waged for the past 14 years in afghanistan somalia and yemen they say the high death toll is due to the fact that there is a preference for killing targets rather than capturing them furthermore it is difficult for u.s. intelligence agencies

being paid by the state so it's undeniable he's not some kind of so no one is going to say the jeremy scahill exposed of the drone war and and glenn greenwald who although he's refused to come on this show that these people want to support a powerful against the bow and i think that's i think you're right about that it would be the one thing i learned when i was an m.p. is any complicated plan is going to fail because up there is far more effective than conspiracy theory lebed a big thank you. this week the u.k. parliament debated whether to give british soldiers immunity from prosecution for crimes in the north of ireland but with a new film exposing alleged british government involvement in a plan for a massacre at a catholic primary school is the government initiative about concealment inclusion rather than justice joining me now is sean mari director of the new film quite grave thanks so much for coming on before we even get to the amazing film you've made your response to labor and tory defense officials some rowing back from labor appearing to promote immunity for u.k. soldiers for alle