kristen: we are back with larry beil and the host of espn z 60 films, jeremy schaap.reat new documentary about the play which as a cal alum was legit. i don't understand why there was controversy. larry: ok. [laughter] plays like this happens so often where you have a five laterals and the band on the field. >> i am not a physics major. a guy that is running that direction and throws the ball that way and i am behind him. how that could be construed as a forward lateral. >> garner is down, they had a forward lateral. who do we have officiating? [laughter] >> look, it's much better. people ask was it legitimate or illegitimate, it's been 40 years. the ruling on the field stood. it's a much better story that it is a touchdown than if it gets called back. i don't have a preference between cal or stanford. i have a preference for the better story. the better story is it was a touchdown. larry: we saw rodney gilmore there, who played for stanford and is one of my best friends. >> huge play in the game. larry: i texted rod, we've had this discussion, and i said, do you stil