there is a good piece by my former colleague jeremy shapiro.e problem is that as long as each side is determined to fuel the proxy war until it wins, it just gets worse and worse, and that's precisely what we've been seeing. that's why the only way out is for the outside powers to all ife to the table and see there is a political solution they can agree on that would be messy and ugly and unfortunate, and not achieve either side's goals, but would be far better for everybody's interest than what we are seeing. that is how these things ultimately have to end. i mentioned the way bosnia ended. bosnia was four years of approval, terrible civil war, with outside actors fueling genocidal nationals. ultimately we ended up having to deal with the russians, deal with the extreme nationalists. -- it was built on ethnic cleansing, which we said we would never accept. ultimately, to end that war had to recognize that part of the country would be run by the bosnian serbs. unsatisfying and it was not what we ideally would have liked to see, which is a unifi

there is a good piece by jeremy shapiro my former colleague in the "new york times" and "u.s.a. today," and the problem is it gets worse and worse and the only way is for the outside powers all to come to the table and see if there is a political solution that they can agree on that would be messy and ugly and unfortunate and not achieve either side's goals but would be far better for everybody's interest than what we are seeing, and that's how these things ultimately have to end. in the political piece that i wrote i mentioned the way bosnia ended, and bosnia was also four years of a brutal, terrible civil war and in some ways a proxy war. we as outside actors fueling genocidal nationalists. ultimately we ended up having to deal with the russians, deal with these extreme nationalists in serbia and croatia. we recognized, to end the war, part of the country would be run by the bosnian serbs. it was unsatisfying and not ideally what we would like to see, a unified country where everyone was living together, but after four years of proxy war, that was the best we could do and also