jeremy siegle. look at market reaction. look at dow jones industrials and right now down 22 points trying to inch closer to flat line here. it's not just in the markets and we're watching the zigzag reaction to deepseek and chinese ai startup that rocked and it was apparently unconfirmed at a much cheaper level than everybody else here in the u.s. has been spending and it really caused the market to fluctuate for microsoft to report after the bell and in about 30 minutes, creator openai and evaluating weather deepseek used openai to train it is own open source model and going to sneak in the backdoor and stealing ip, intellectual property. not the first time chinese have done that and david sacks saying there's substantial evidence that deepseek tap intoed openai data to build its mod fell a process called distillation. meta reports after the bell and shares up 1% and lower in the red and punch back in positive territory and city analyst say deepseek better for worse and it's a catalyst for meta. dutch chip equipment maker