jermaine now wanted to keep him from facing the music., it could have been at a nearby airport. where would it have taken mike snl. >> we would have gone to the middle ooeeast, to bahrain. >> reporter: trusting in the injury, he says, jermaine never activated his astonishi ining p revealed for the first time in his new book, "you are not alone." they would have put you in prison for the rest of your life if they caught you doing that. >> they wouldn't have caught me. they would haven't caught me. >> reporter: a new trial now occupy's jermaine's attention, as dr. conrad murray faces a manslaughter charge for allegedly administering a dose of the anesthetic prop foul that caused michael's death in june 2009. who do you hold responsible for your brother's death? >> prop foul. >> reporter: i didn't ask you what. i asked you who. >> prop foul and the doctor. he had a responsibility of keeping michael jackson alive. alive. >> reporter: instead, there are only memories. motown 25 in 1983. singing "i'll be there." ♪ i'll be there to comfort you >

. >> jermaine jackson, who he blamed for his brother's death. do you think there may be a cover-up? >> what do you think? i would think that as a family member, yes. >> the emotional true story of michael's life. >> it's like they pushed and pushed and pushed this bird who was injured his wings were injured and they wanted him to push him off the cliff and expected him to fly and he fell. >> and his death. >> what we're concerned about. their money, their jobs or my brother's health. >> the real story behind all the scandals. you don't think it hurt him when they called him "whacko jacko." >> and the jackson family behind closed doors. >> the crap and garbage that's been written about my family for so many years and all these other books that were unauthorized and people saying things that didn't know us. >> jermaine jackson the primetime exclusive. this is "piers morgan tonight." ♪ >>> let me start with the imminent trial of conrad murray, dr. conrad murray. obviously, hugely significant for you and your family and for the world, to try to discover if through the process of this tr

. >> jermaine jackson the primetime exclusive. this is "piers morgan tonight." ♪ >>> let me start with the imminent trial of conrad murray, dr. conrad murray. obviously, hugely significant for you and your family and for the world, to try to discover if through the process of this trial, we work out what really happened to your brother, michael. as we approach the start of this trial, what are your feelings? >> my feelings are, as well as the family, the truth will come out. it's something we've been long awaited for. and it's up to the point now where it's been a lot of speculation and hearsay, but i think that we're all going to -- it's not going to bring closure but it will give us a clear understanding of what really happened. i think it's important that the fans and the public as well as ourselves, need to know what really happened. what took place. there's so many things that happened that we were not aware of as a family because we were kept away. >> do you think that conrad murray was solely responsible for your brother's

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call now or apply at chasesapphire.com/preferred. ♪ >>> jermaine, you've written >>> jermaine, you'veaordinarily honest, frank and open book. it's called "you are not alone: michael through his brother's eyes." you were his big brother. what was he like as a young guy? describe the michael before it all became like a circus. >> michael was a very joyful kid. he was very fast on his feet. he was always into things. he was a bit nosey at times. but he was a kid who always had dreams, and he wanted to play store. and i'd tell a story of how we were looking out the window and singing the christmas songs and watching the snow fall and looking at our neighbors' homes because we weren't allowed to have christmas being jehovah's witnesses. and these are things he missed. if you know the song "childhood" it says a lot about his life. >> do you ever wish as a family, and i've interviewed janet and la toya this year and they've been quite revealing about this. do you ever wish that you hadn't gone through the door marked superstardom, fame? >> that's a good question. i've always been told that i

jermaine revealing how he really felt about their father. michael's stunning plan to free the country. and the super recording he made with hollywood legends. >>> and good morning everyone. let's get right to the fast-breaking overnight developments. abc news has learned those two american hikers held in iran for more than two years, could be coming home, even possibly this week. >> that's right. josh fattal, and shane bauer. they will get out a similar deal that got sara shroud out last year. he is engaged to josh baaer. and jim sciutto has been tracking the developments through the night. good morning jim. >> reporter: george good morning. if president ahmadinejad can deliver on this promise. the president has said the hikers can be released in two days. he's been informed by the judiciary of $5,000 bail each. the same bail that sarah shourd the third american captured last year. we have been hearing these hopeful signs for weeks. ahmadinejad eager to make this gesture before he trav travels to new york next week. you remember the american

chris conley sat down with jermaine to talk about it. >> reporter: the last time we saw jermaine jacksong michael's favorite song. >> it was so emotional right at the end that i just kind of, kind of broke down, and i didn't think it would be that hard. because we performed all our lives. >> reporter: when they did perform together as on the 1984 victory tour, it was jermaine just behind michael. during michael's 2005 sexual abuse trial, jermaine would try to support his brother again with a shocking plan. secretly chartering an airplane to fly michael out of the country before the jury could render its verdict. >> there was a plane that could have been at a nearby airport. >> uh-huh. >> where would it have taken michael? >> we would have gone to the ddle east to bahrain, to saudi. >> they would have put you in prison for the rest of your life if they had caught you doing that. >> thehewouldn't have caught me. >> such new revelations fill jermaine's new book, "you are not alone." the moment he first heard 4-year-old michael singing "jingle bells," the time that michael confided his feeli

what jermaine's point was, one tape, one shot of somebody doesn't mean they're an addict. this tape doesn't prove that. point well taken, it doesn't. what is a concern i would have if i'm the prosecution and the jackson family is the way the jurors would take it. they would listen to that and possibly make the same leap that i think a lot of people would, that not everybody ever gets into that position throughout any of their life. >> the other significant aspects i felt of today's testimony, one was that dr. murray didn't call 911. now, why would he not do that? >> well, this is what the prosecution really hammered with both of the witnesses that were in the house and out of the house during that time where there was chaos. first it was the personal assistant. murray calls him but he doesn't say call 911, he just says get over here and send somebody up. the same thing with the security guard, never called 911. so they're making a point to the jury that murray didn't call 911 right away. why? because later we'll hear that during that critical period, he was collecting thos

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cancer breaks some families and make some jermaine said in my case, did both. she wanted to go back to alabama, her own home to die the death she'd expect that in 1999. when i recall the final conversation with jermaine, embarrassing the enough, the objects seem to stand up more vividly than the words. the hospital but they sure smell of disinfectant and hand soap from the unflattering overhead lightcomedy with a side table the windows with pills, books, newspaper clippings, nail polish, jewelry and postcards. a standard issue referred with a bunch of sunflowers perched on the table by her side. germane as i remember was sitting by the bed, one leg dangling casually down, wearing her usual eccentric combination of clothes and some large initial pieces of jewelry. her hair was carefully arranged. she looked frozen, formal and perfect for someone waiting to die. she seemed content. she laughed and joked, made worrying and nasogastric tube seem effortless and dignified. only years later in reading this book i finally put into words why that meeting must be feeling

. >> i interviewed jermaine jackson, it was one of his fears that michael would be exposed by the prosecution as some kind of addict in all this by the defense. as some kind of -- no, i suppose by the prosecution. i mean, talk me through the defense and prosecution played out today. who had the better day, do you think? >> well, you know, that's tough to say. to be an objective observer, both of them scored points for sure. the prosecution's opening was clean. it was very succinct. and they were very clear on harping on a few points. they painted murray as being greedy, as being ill qualified to serve as michael jackson's doctor, then they really hammered home a couple points which resonated. one, the amount of propofol that they purchased. they used calendars to use hundreds of bottles of propofol that he was purchasing for murray to deflect that he was weaning him off of it. sure looked like he was buying a lot of it. the other thing that could be damning, when jackson was struggling for his life, when the emts showed up, what did you give this person, this patient, he mentions other things

have been a totally different side to all this, just the family were totally unaware of because jermaine knew nothing about this stuff either. >> i think it's hard as we all have heard to have gotten in touch at certain points. >> yeah. >> you know, the numbers are changed and people controlling and that's all i'll say. >> i understand. kathy, i mean, i have to -- >> my love to the family. >> i have to leave it there. thank you for coming on. i appreciate it. >> thank you, thank you. >> when we come back, dr. sanjay gupta weighs in about michael jackson's overuse of propofol. ♪ ♪ ♪ when your chain of supply ♪ goes from here to shanghai, that's logistics. ♪ ♪ chips from here, boards from there ♪ ♪ track it all through the air, that's logistics. ♪ ♪ clearing customs like that ♪ hurry up no time flat that's logistics. ♪ ♪ all new technology ups brings to me, ♪ ♪ that's logistics. ♪ [ woman announcing ]bsite there's an easier way. create your own small-business site... with intuit websites. choose a style, customize, publish and get found... from just $7.99 a month. get a 30-day free trial..

have been a totally different side to all this, just the family were totally unaware of because jermaine knew nothing about this stuff either. >> i think it's hard as we all have heard to have gotten in touch at certain points. >> yeah. >> you know, the numbers are changed and people controlling and that's all i'll say. >> i understand. kathy, i mean, i have to -- >> my love to the family. >> i have to leave it there. thank you for coming on. i appreciate it. >> thank you, thank you. >> when we come back, dr. sanjay gupta weighs in about michael jackson's overuse of propofol. tom, check this out. good gravy, bill. our insurance company doesn't have anything like it. magnificent, isn't it? with progressive, it's easy to cover all of your favorite rides. progressive has truck insurance? number one in truck and motorcycle. is that a golf cart? yep. we also cover rvs, boats, atvs. anything else i can help you with? can i take a ride? you need a ticket -- i'm first! and that's by the water slide. okay. no running. oh, dear. save on all your rides. now, that's progressive. call or click today.

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daughters >> tomorrow, my prime time exclusive with michael jackson's brother, jermaine what he thinks really happened to michael and what he says about his brother's doctor, conrad murray. >> the first time i saw conrad murray was in the hospital. i understand that he was -- there was something with paris that he came into their lives before, but the first time i saw him was in the hospital and i just didn't have a good feeling. >> an extraordinary interview with jermaine jackson, a prime time exclusive that's tomorrow night. that's it for us tonight. >>> hello, i'm monita rajpal at cnn london. libya's interim leadership is giving civilians until thursday night to leave the gadhafi stronghold of bani walid. many have been streaming out of town. . >>> a western diplomat tells cnn an official from oman is on his way to tehran to help the negotiatings in the case against two hikers sentenced for spying in iran. iran's judiciary says it is considering a request to set bail in the case. this seems to contradict previous statements by the hingers' attorney and iranian president mahmoud ahma

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that's fathers and daughters ♪ >> tomorrow, my prime time exclusive with michael jackson's brother, jermainehe thinks really happened to michael and what he says about his brother's doctor, conrad murray. >> the first time i saw conrad murray was in the hospital. i understand that he was -- there was something with paris that he came into their lives before, but the first time i saw him was in the hospital and i just didn't have a good feeling. >> an extraordinary interview with jermaine jackson, a prime time exclusive that's tomorrow night. that's it for us tonight. "ac 360" starts right now. >> piers, thanks very much. good evening, everyone, 10 p.m. here on the east coast tonight. is michele bachmann's latest misstep the beginning of the end of her presidential campaign? by most accounts, bachmann did well in the republican debate taking rick perry to task on his order to girls to get the hpv vaccine, suggesting he was catering to pharmaceutical manufacturer, merck. then she did this. >> i'll tell you this, i had a mother last night come up to me here in tampa, florida, after the debate.

we have a very candid hour with jermaine jackson and he offers an extraordinary defense of his brother boys and he talks about his opinion of dr. conrad murray and how fragile michael had become at the end of his life. >> i know for michael to get sleep, he had to be knocked out. this wasn't just this one night. this was administered in him on an ongoing basis, which was causing his body to deteriorate and him to act different and have different symptoms in his behavior. >> pretty eye-popping interview with jermaine jackson at the top of the hour. back to you. >>> thanks, up next a remarkable inside look at an important period in american history by a key player. jackie kennedy "in her own words" audiotapes about how she felt about presidents like lyndon johnson. >>> and in "crime and punishment," a florida millionaire charged with the murder of his wife but in court the lawyers backtrack on what the man told 911 the night of the shooting. >> what's going on there, sir? >> i just shot my wife! ed planes. we let you be everywhere at once. innovations like these are extending our reach s

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but it's his future and the future of his teammates and classmates that not only has jermaine excitedut also educators around the country. >> everyone here knows that they're going to college. >> reporter: every student that's graduated from this all-boys public charter high school on chicago's notoriously rough south side has been accepted to a four-year college. an incredible statistic considering that traditionally, less than 5% of african-american boys from chicago's public schools make it through college. >> i want to go into engineering and get my degree in engineering at u of i. >> reporter: urban prep has been open for five years. there's no test to get in. it is a lottery. there are roughly 1,400 boys on the current wait list. freshman arrive with varying levels of education. the school days are long, 8:30 to 4:30. students wear a jacket and tie and are expected to excel. have you ever wanted to quit? >> no, not really. i was frustrated. i get frustrated but i never wanted to quit because people around me always gave me that positive reinforcement that i needed to keep on goi

had we been called, he'd be alive today. >> jermaine jackson, thursday night, 9:00. and now, to washington we go. let's go to paul steinhauser with the news fresh off the cnn political ticker. let's talk poll numbers. what do you have? >> you got it. first, i want to apologize because usually, you get wolf blitzer. the main man. >> we're happy to have you. >> i have no beard, i'm not an anchor. these are brand new numbers from cnn orc. national numbers. we did them over the weekend after this president gave the speech thursday night to congress and the nation on jobs. the first number, do you approve or disapprove. let's go with this number first because that's the one on the screen. this is who do you trust more in the economy? they trust the president more than republicans in congress. 46% say the president. the bottom 13% say dwoent trust either to handle the economy. but go back to that either number. the overall approval, disapproval for the president. 43%. so, he didn't get really much of a boost of all at all out of that speech and 55% say they disapprove -- n

. >> reporter: jermaine my yah says he was tormented by faculty members. >> i was secretly taking pianout and called me in front of the youth group and called me an fag, qeer and he was raped and told no one for years later. >> i was raped for three years and i was told it was my fault and i went and told the pastor and asked if i was giving money at that time and said because i wasn't giving money i was violated. >> plain lying. that did not happen. if it happened, i would be the first one to drag the person to the police station. >> reporter: then, there's lois crosby. she started at fair haven more than three decades ago. she says the brutality was too much for her. >> i've actually overdosed twice. the second time, i overdosed, even the doctors don't know how i'm alive. >> all seven of your former students said they either thought or tried to commit suicide. a, are they lying to me and b, how does that make you feel? >> it makes me feel bad but i really don't believe it has anything to do with us. >> reporter: there are also these two former students. tell me your name? >> frank. ka

. >> reporter: jermaine my yah says he was tormented by faculty members. >> i was secretly taking piano and called me an fag, qeer and he was raped and told no one for years later. >> i was raped for three years and i was told it was my fault and i went and told the pastor and asked if i was giving money at that time and said because i wasn't giving money i was violated. >> plain lying. that did not happen. if it happened, i would be the first one to drag the person to the police station. >> reporter: then, there's lois crosby. she started at fair haven more than three decades ago. she says the brutality was too much for her. >> i've actually overdosed twice. the second time, i overdosed, even the doctors don't know how i'm alive. >> all seven of your former students said they either thought or tried to commit suicide. a, are they lying to me and b, how does that make you feel? >> it makes me feel bad but i really don't believe it has anything to do with us. >> reporter: there are also these two former students. tell me your name? >> frank. katherine. >> reporter: katherine and frank, t

i would think with the jury admitted-of them that they were michael jackson fans having jermaine, jacksonall these people that so many of us grew up with with the jackson 5 and pop culture are going to be influencers to the jury. even if prince might el the eldest boy testifies, you don't think that's going to influence the jury to come to a conviction of this man, the last doctor standing. >> i don't think so. there's no question that michael jackson is loved worldwide. i loved michael jackson. everybody loves his music. everybody also knows because he was so -- such an open book that there was dysfunction in that family. he wasn't speaking to his father for years. he was distant from his mother. he had had falling out with his brothers and sisters. i think with his brothers and sisters and they'll look at them to say, that's nice they're here now. where were they when he was making his cries for help and displaying the need for help from people close to him. they weren't there then. jurors will look at that and it's pretty cool they're here, but it will not influence their decision. >>

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and father joe there and the rest of the family, jermaine as well.s we watch them go by, there's la toya. there's tito right now. and accepting some acknowledgement from those that have gathered outside of the courthouse. this is the first day of the trial. dr. conrad murray. so we'll show you more of this as we develop. in the meantime, let's get back to where we are. america's middle class has been hard hit during this recession. while households across the country have watched their incomes fall, there have been a few exceptions. alison kosik has more on the middle class. >> reporter: exactly. the common thread for the lucky ones is that they live in places where there is a big industry, a big demand for a product or a service. the best way to explain this, it rose pretty well in d.c. and maryland because of government spending. and d.c. we saw the biggest increase in pay between 2007 and 2010. incomes were up 21%. in north dakota, natural gas and oil agriculture is where you saw the incomes rise there. here in new york and new jersey, wall street

today it's only jermain, joe and catherine, michael's brother and mother and father. janet jackson was also here yesterday, as was latoya, two of michael's sisters. when the defense was giving their opening statement and inserting that michael jackson actually ingested the lethal does himself and he will have toxicology reports -- more family is going in as the fans cheers. >> reporter: as they were doing that, as they arasserting that michael jackson gave himself a lethal does. janet sat back, took a deep sigh, obviously upset with that testimony. latoya shaking her head no. they were not happy with the defense team. it's very interesting to see the jackson family reaction. to see dr. murray to your left looking right at the jury as well with tears in his eyes, very dramatic throughout the day yesterday. we're getting into the medical part of this testimony, because it's going to be difficult to keep the jury aware. both sides will tell you they have to make a way to make it understandable for the jury as they go through this process of the trial. jenna: a lot for th

janet, jermaine and randy have chosen not to participate because the concert is taking place during the of dr. murray. keira, the forever michael tribute will take place any event in car div, wales, next saturday, october 8th. >>> what is the inside scoop on the moore/kutcher household? >> i hope this is turning into good news it might be because it appears ashton coupler is doing his part to shutdown all these rumors flying around that he and demi are splitting up. it started a few days ago, "star" magazine alleging kutcher was up faithful and that led to them collapsing. he uses his twitter account, as he is wont to do he tweeted a link to his spotify account, playing the song "don't believe the hype" and tweeted the old line, when you assume to know that which you know nothing of, you make a blank out of you and me. now, a few days earlier, demi quoted a greek philosopher on her twitter account writing, when we are offended at any man's fault, turn to yourself and study your own failings and then you will forget your anger. i don't know, is it all code, let the fans know it is just f

this court hearing as well, i mentioned janet jackson, joe jackson, michael's mother and father, jermaineto in the courtroom. we did not see michael jackson's children, we didn't see them go in. as part of that prosecution opening statement, megyn, they also claimed that michael jackson was medically abandoned by conrad murray, they say there was gross negligence in the standard of care administered by dr. murray, and they say there were no medical records whatsoever at all for any of the care being administered. that's claimed by the prosecution. they say it was an employer/employee relationship which is not standard and that dr. murray was being paid $155,000 a month. megyn? megyn: wow. that's a big number. and you heard the defense saying he wasn't motivated by greed, and they're going to get into that with the jury. adam houseley, great reporting. thank you very much. >>> well, your health care records are about to go online thanks to the president's new health care law, and getz who now wants to manage all of your private data. big brother. is this a good idea? we'll have a full repo

almost certainly feature devastating testimony about jackson's personal life, something his brother jermainet us remember that we, family and fans, are one united for michael. we'll carry your love, support and fight with us every day. monday the judge ruled the jury will not get to see michael jackson's last news conference nor will they hear from prosecutors about police trying to re-interview dr. murray four separate times. rob, tanya? >> it's interesting that joe jackson's attorney believes there should be other people on trial as well as conrad murray. >> in addition to the doctor. we'll get more information about his personal life, past legal troubles, and they know he had a serious drug addiction problem -- getting into his lifestyle issues, that kind of thing. a pretty sad portrait. >> it won't be pretty. >> no. other news this morning. investigators are expected to release more details today on the deaths of five people in rural indiana. four of the victims were from one family, a husband, wife and two adult children. the other victim was a neighbor, sister of one victim said the fa

. >> reporter: jackson's older brother, jermaine, has written a book about their childhood, "you aremurder! >> reporter: anwhile, jury selection is under way in the involuntary manslaughter trial of jackson's former personal physician. last week the judge asked potential jurors if they were not aware of the case against dr. conrad murray. >> there was not a single hand raised in the room. everyone knew about the case. >> reporter: prosecutors say murray administered the fatal dose of propofol. a powerful anesthetic believed to have killed the king of pop. the judge decided against sequestering the jury, that means they are going to be kept in a secret location. bused to and from the court. as for dr. conrad murray, he faces up to four years in prison if he's convicted. rob? tanya? >> thanks, diana. >>> federal health officials are working to find the source of a deadly food contamination outbreak linked to cantaloupes. colorado based jensen farms is voluntarily recalling its shipments of the melons. which were sent to 17 states. officials say there has been no definite link between t

mom had this was happening, and when he played that tape, everyone, janet, tito, receive, la toya, jermaine, all looked down the row at their mom and started passing tissue down and she started crying. the whole courtroom was stunned, carol. >> explain to us where this audio recording was taken from. >> reporter: so the audweudio recording was when dr. conrad murray had just started treating michael jackson. it was an ireporter on a cell phone and conrad murray had recorded michael jackson's, either a conversation or something he was taping him doing and that's what the prosecution found. i don't know the exact date of that recording, but that was heart wrenching. now, the other part, too, that was heart wrenching, along, carol, with this videotape is a pick color. you saw the picture of him on the gurney. so we want into the courtroom and they start the prosecution and it's normal. then the lights dim and it becomes this production of a movie that they're taking you through. a heart wrenching movie. you see michael jackson up on the stage on the 24th and then the 25th, nine hours later, yo