jerome adams. dr. adams last month you tweeted u.s.s were dying while the country is waiting for full approval of the pfizer vaccine. approval to be imminent. how important is it? >> right now as you mentioned, this is still just conjecture, but i'm praying -- i'm really praying, anderson, that this comes to pass. this will pave the way for organizations to have more aggressive tactics in terms of getting their employees vaccinated. to put it plainly, it will make it easier for these organizations to come to a decision to mandate these vaccines. >> dr. hotez, what happens once the fda gives approval? what is the next step? >> well, i think it's important to point out that the fda doesn't unilaterally just do this. i think there's some steps. they're going to have to or will consult with the committee, the vaccines and related biologics committee, for their input and take their advice. so, i think that's a step. and of course they will consult with the centers for disease control and the acip. so this is not a one-day thing. i think it'

jerome adams, appreciate having you again. let's keep this going and get the information out there for people and let's track progress where we find it. >> i just also want to say to the governors out there, please, please don't take tools out of the hands of public officials. let that conversation happen on a local level and let public health officials do what the data says they should be doing. it just drives me crazy, chris, to see that we're sending people into battle without bulletproof vests, to see that we're not letting them utilize the tools that we know work to help stop this pandemic. thank you for having me on. >> thank you for putting that message out there unprompted. surgeon general, thank you. >> thank you. >>> ahead we have new numbers on who the vaccinated blame for this ongoing pandemic versus the unvaccinated. and we have new data on whether mandates would actually work. there is some interesting findings. "the wizard of odds," next. oh um, doug can we talk about something other than work, it's the weekend.

jha, at the former surgeon general, jerome adams, and heidi larson of the vaccine confidence project. >> i want to applaud your use of the phrase vaccine hesitancy, because i never say anti-vax. there's a small, albeit vocal contingent who are what i call vaccine resistant, but most vaccine-hesitant people simply have questions or barriers that, when addressed with compassion, can be overcome. >> people are asking all kinds of questions. they're asking what's the wisdom of so many vaccines? these are not crazy people. they're not uneducated. they're actually worried mothers. but some of them have come to me and say, "we feel ignored. we feel judged if we ask a question, and we even feel demonized that maybe we're part of some anti-vaccine group." so we have some listening to do. >> dr. jha, do you think that on some level, we've demonized the unvaccinated in a way that it's become unproduc? >> absolutely. i think the approach of calling everybody who has not gotten vaccinated anti-vax is not only unhelpful, it's just wrong. and people have lots of questions. there are lots of reasons

jerome adams. >> we are not crying wolf here.this surge we are going through now has every potential to be and already looks to be the worst surge we faced so far. >> reporter: almost daily, more and more counties are urging employers to make sure their employees are vaccinated. doctors say that's really our only line of defense right now. i am justin andrews, kpix5. >> thank you. >>> suter health is thlatest healreto require employees to be vaccinated. everyone must show proof by september 30 unless they have an an. >>> a trend is affecting hospitals nationwide. >> nurses and nursing assistants are one of the areas we continue to have to work through in order to find people to take care of patients. >> usually if you are a nurse, you care a lot. you will keep trying to give 100% until you have nothing left in your own tank. >> nurses tell us when they test positive for covid, there is a ripple effect. it means there is one less person to help take care of patients. >>> dixie fire blew up overnight destroying an entire town. a re

jerome adams. he spoke on this. >> we are not crying wolf. this surge we are going through has every potential and already looks to be the worst surge we faced so far. >> reporter: almost daily, we are seeing more and more bay area counties urging employers to make sure their employees are vaccinated or get tested weekly. those doctors say this is really our only line of defense and they're talking vaccinations. >> thank you. >>> giving workforce until september 30 to prove they're vaccinated unless they have approved exemption. this is days after oakland kaiser announced vaccine mandate. >>> some already costed workers who have worked through the pandemic. >> nurses and nursing assistants are one of the areas we have to work through. >> usually if you are a nurse you care a lot. you will keep giving 100% until you have nothing left in your tank. >> some nurses tell us when they test positive for covid there is a ripple effect. it means there is one less person to help take care of patients. >>> red flag warning in effect for areas impacted b

right now jerome adams pointed out that many schools require parents to report if their kids contractg local prevalence, trying to get high-, quo-quality masks. and sending kids to school with masks, even if it is not required, and maybe doing home testing as well. and avoiding unnecessary congregate settings. if you can avoid activities done without masks indoors, for now trying doing that. >> dickerson: let me ask you now for parents considering getting their kids vaccinated, over 12 years old, a lot of parents have expressed nervousness in that regard. what would your advice be to a parent who is weighing the decision to their child vaccinated? >> doctor: talk to your pediatrician. about 30% of children have been vaccinated in the 15 to 17 age group. now is the time if you're going to vaccinate your child, now is the time to do it. it isn't just a binary decision do i vaccinate or not vaccinate? there are different strategies. some doctors are telling parents maybe go with one dose for now, in lower risk kids. some doctors are spacing it apart. pediatricians are making judgment cal

jerome adams said that there's this cad ray of people who are saying, oh, it's only got emergency useuthorization. i'll feel better about getting the shot if it's got the full approval from the fda. now, there's no logical reason for them to think this. but they think this. so the hope is that once there's full approval that more people will roll up their sleeves. what cnn is hearing from a federal official is that the fda is moving and will get this done as soon as they can. "the new york times" reporting that it will happen by labor day. cnn has told that there is no set date. but let's take a listen to something that tony fauci told our colleague last night. let's take a listen to what he had to say. >> i do hope it's going to be within the next couple of weeks. i hope it's sooner than the end of month. >> if the full approval of the vaccine for over 12 accelerated to a couple weeks from now, do you think that time frame changes for under 12s? >> it will be regulatory decision, erin. we're collecting the data right now for what we need to make that determination. >> what i heard is

jerome adams who was surgeon general in the previous administration. good to see you again. so, you know, you talk to nurse felicia croft, and god bless nurses. i mean, i know doctors are great, too, but nurses, i gotta tell you, are just incredibly, incredible people. i spoke with a doctor from missouri last week who said similar things about her patients. they're younger, sicker, didn't have comorbidities. how concerned should people be about what seems to be one of the major differences with the delta variant? >> they should be incredibly concerned. and again, listen to felicia. listen to your local doctor. listen to your nurses. anderson, i was in the hospital just a few hours ago. working today, and i tell you, the nurses were the ones that were the most frustrated, were the most burned out, because they have been busting their butts for 18 months. working long shifts, doing things that are outside their comfort zone, because nurses will do anything to help their patients. and they're just frustrated that last year, we didn't have masks. we didn't have vaccines. we didn

jerome adams. these esteemed public health leaders who served under both republican and democratic presidents, discussed the importance of ensuring that communities of color, those hardest-hit by the virus, had the information and access they need to get vaccinated. and they discussed how we can work together, of course, moving forward. last point for all of you. the president spoke, or called, i should say, shontel brown last night, extended his congratulations to her. he spoke on delivering for the people of ohio and across the country, as is she. we know his agenda, including investing in our country's infrastructure, helping grow our economy, creating good paying middle class jobs is broadly popular with the american people. he is laser-focused on delivering. more democrats means more ability to deliver on that. i know you were up way too early this morning, based on my television. [laughter] i've been waiting to do that joke all week. here we are. go ahead. [laughter] reporter: i appreciate th