jerome williams, david cornwell, i appreciate the perspective this morning.of course. and they have been awesome. but this issue looms large, and the action on it is going to be importantel sw. gentlemen, thank you very much. >>> now, you want to look it at this situation, you have magic, you have donald sterling, you want to hear from both, what makes more sense, you'll have another chance to hear from sterling. more of his exclusive interview on "ac 360" tonight, 8:00 p.m. eastern only here on cnn. we'll take a quick break now. when we come back on "new day," this war of words. karl rove says that hillary clinton may have some type of mental health -- some brain injury. he suggests that. now republicans are criticizing his remarks. but we're all talking about it, kate. so maybe he did what he wanted to do. and this will be your premium right here. sorry to interrupt, i just want to say, i combined home and auto with state farm, saved 760 bucks. love this guy. okay, does it bother anybody else that the mime is talking? frrreeeeaky! [ male announcer ] bundle

. >>> with me now to talk is rick berry and member of the retired nba players association, jerome williams. >> thanks, carol. >> jerome, do you want to play golf with mr. sterling? >> no, not at this time. i think i'm going to have to pass him up on that. everybody wants to play golf with him. >> what do you make of what he said and why does he keep talking? >> well, you know, i just look at it as this is a guy who is 80 years old and obviously he has had a long life and he's been around and had this franchise for many years and i think that he is now basically stepped off the deep end in terms of what he's saying about certain players, about his franchise. he's definitely a little delusional in terms of his connection with reality and i think that it has to do with the fact that when you have a lot of money, sometimes you're put in this bubble where you don't really come into contact with a lot of people. with the people at large and i think that that is really clouding his judgment. >> i think that's very kind of you to say, jerome. if nba owners were watching sterling last night, what d