. >> democrat jerrold nadler spoke for many on the house committee from the left and the right. they argued the national security agency had gone too far with its blanket collection of americans' phone records and foreign. >> i think that very clearly this program has gone off the tracks legally and needs to be reigned in. >> the deputy direct over the nsa argue thad the controversy programs are consistent with section 215 of the patriot act, which allows the government to order anyone to hand over, quote, any tangible things so long as the order is related to an authorized investigation. many lawmakers, including committee's chairman, robert goodlatte expressed frustration that they were left in the dark about these programs. robert at the general office said that was intentional. >> the decision was made that this was the sort of sensitive source and method that we don't want to disclose. >> do you think that this program of this magnitude of gathering information of a large group of people involved with telephone records and so on could definitely be kept secret from the amer

. >> reporter: democrat jerrold nadler spoke for many on the house judiciary committee from the left and the right. they argued the national security agency had gone too far with its blanket collection of american phone records and foreign internet communications. california democrat zoe lofgren. >> i think that very clearly this program has gone off the tracks legally. >> reporter: the deputy director of the n.s.a. argued the controversial surveillance programs are consistent with section 215 of the patriot act which allows the government to order anyone to hand over, quote, any tangible things so long as the order is related to an authorized investigation. but republican james sensenbrenner, a coauthor of the patriot act argued section 215 is being abused. >> unless you realize you've got a problem, that is not going to be renewed. >> reporter: many lawmakers, including the committee's chairman robert goodlatte, expressed frustration that they were left in the dark about these programs. robert litt, general counsel at the office of the director of national intelligence said that wa

back from its july 4 recess and, in 45 minutes, we'll talk with jerrold nadler as to whether the housend senate can work out a final immigration bill. the mississippi senator joins us to discuss the republicans' agenda including health care and the economy. later, a look at u.s. trade policy. ♪ [captioning performed by national captioning institute] congress is back in session this week with three weeks to go before the month-long august break. they will debate what to do on immigration reform after the senate passed its bill last month. both sides playing of political blame game. democrats plan to push a one- year extension of the 3.4% student loan raite. a competing proposal ties into the financial markets and under consideration with bipartisan support. that is happening on the senate floor thisee

but new york democrat jerrold nadler wasn't reassured. >> the fact that a secret court unaccountable to public knowledge of what it is doing- for practical purposes unaccountable to the supreme court may join you in misusing or abusing the statute is no comfort whatsoever. >> brown: the judiciary committee said it will soon take closed-door, classified testimony on the n.s.a. programs. now to a debate on snowden, the government's response to his actions, and the programs he revealed. daniel ellsberg was tried under the espionage act after leaking the so-called "pentagon papers"- - a classified report which he co-wrote as a military analyst that was critical of u.s. decision-making during the vietnam war. the case against him was ultimately dismissed in 1973. and michael mukasey was attorney general during the george w. bush administration. general during the george w. bush administration. >> lits get on the table first, the programs, michael mukasey, you have written that real damage was done by snowden. please explain. >> i think reel damage was done in two respects, one by disclosi

on today's washington journal, we talk with new york congressman jerrold nadler about what progress is being made and the passage for the immigration bill. >> jerry nadler, democrat of new york. we want to talk about immigration reform and the prospect for it. welcome back to the t first if i could get your take on egypt, because a lot of conversation, a lot of reports on the papers today. should we stop the aid to egypt? >> was a strange conversation. they had something like 10 million signatures would of same to the to people saying he should step aside this is a country of 75 million people together. and they have literally millions of people demonstrating. one might say that the maziku and the other side of the constitution was adopted by rather strong arm tactics. i would suggest we wouldn't stop the military aid. you have got two sides neither of whom are acting democratically. the military firing is unforgivable. the brotherhood under morsi was trying to eliminate the space procedures. but the definition of democracy is not a one-man, one-vote, one time although some countries s

about egypt and the role the united states should play when we talk to roger .icker no talke that jerrold nadlerbout immigration reform and the prospects for it in the house. first, we're joined by the white house editor at politico to talk about political comebacks. let me show the viewers the political website this morning with the headline, why sex card polls still come back for more. this comes from the announcement of elliott it's there that he will run for the comptroller. anthony wiener running for mayor of new york city. for thesehe prospects two? guest: the big question for to require signatures, valid signatures from new yorkers and has to do it by the end of the week. he has not a lot of time, given that he has no big organization behind him or campaign set up to make this happen. if that happens, there are a lot of people who think he would have a very good shot at getting elected. as for anthony wiener, he is leading the polls at this point. we will see how it goes when things go on. is analysis in the paper saying there is only so much forgiveness to go around, that now elliott spi