neil: okay, so, i want to go to jerry baker, wall street journal at-large, the host, great writer , greatright. jerry, i don't want to be unkind to joe biden but i know jfk. he's kind of like a historical friend of mine. that's no jfk. i'm wondering about the backdrop and using that as your launching pan, no pun intended. the comparison might be found wanting. >> yeah, no, i forgotten actually seeing that speech of kennedys. i'd forgotten that line about why does rice play texas and that's why we choose to go to the moon and a terrific example of his ability to deploy humor, you know, even at the most when committing himself to the most significant goal actually probably of his presidency. yeah, he's, biden is obviously known kennedy and look this moon shoot thing, this cancer target is no moon shot either. of course it's great, everybody be delighted everybody wants to work, everybody is working towards reducing deaths from cancer and if it can be and there's some way of getting cancer deaths down by half that's one thing, but look the important thing is the difference between that goal