our guests are jerry cerasel, and grant gross. also, mr. peterson. mr. peterson, the state of utah recently sent amazon a bill. it is an affiliate that amazon owns in the state of texas. and generally the physical presence test. if you have a physical presence, you have an obligation to create a state sales tax. we have spebt spent the last 20 years trying to determine what physical presence means. we have been to court a thousand times trying to figure it out. if i understand it, and i have not talked to texas or amazon, they have a distribution facility in texas that texas now believes creates a physical presence for amazon. and because they have that presence there, that amazon has an obligation to collect their sales tax. and not on an ongoing basis, but texas wants it look back a little, too. >> and it was a bill for like $269 political mill. >> if not more. >> what's the situation on that? >> i think they are going to be in court. >> and it is really a question of -- it is a corporate law question as to whether or not there is enough ownership in t