i want to bring in jerry chen from gray rock.our forecast with us. >> thanks for having me back. in a volatile market, cloud actually is going to see increase both in market revenue through all of the big buyers, but also from startups. we are seeing $50 billion plus last year and cloud investment by vc's. but the emphasis you see going forward is a lot around two areas. security continues to be a big deal, and cost savings. as we seek governance and data tools all grow, we are focused on how to -- the customer. emily: how do you think market volatility will impact the broader cloud landscape? it's hard not to believe this is not going to impact how big customers spend their money. >> i would say -- about the big customer will continue to spend. the -- we are seeing around security we saw -- go to security startups. they cloud customers -- security companies. [indiscernible] cloud customers tend to spend money on things like data. snowflake continues to do well in the public market. game breaks continues to do well in the private