that's why jerry conley wanted to make sure we had a resolution that really made it clear that was the only purpose. we don't want to open up pandora's box to more u.s. military intervention. >> i think a lot of people appreciate that. the polls show 28% overwhelmingly almost 7-3 folks in the country are really wary of u.s. intervention in a middle east country. to the question of humanitarian disaster, what looked to be mass atrocities in syria, i think folks who have humanitarian interests at heart and looked at the blood letting that occurred 100,000 dead, 2 million refugees and understand the weapon of war is not chemical weapons here, it is actually the ak-47, is it not going to be hard for the president to say, okay, on these limited terms we have curbed assad's ability to use chemical weapon his own people, and yet the killing continues. that is a satisfying end to the situation in syria. >> nothing about the situation in syria is satisfying. another goal to the president deterring chemical weapons in future conflicts against american forces. you're right. people say there are a

it's up to the senate and jerry conley said no compromise means big consequences. >> billions of americans are signing up for all kinds of benefits and veterans and social security and medicare. all of that will be in the backlog. >> it is scheduled to meet at 2:00 this afternoon. harry reid said they will strip the measure to delay the health care law as well as another that will repeal attacks on medical devices. we have a shut down to deal with if they don't come to a compromise. >> hundreds of thousands of federal worker who is live here and work at agencies across the region will feel the impact. many are concerned about what will happen tomorrow. melissa is live on capitol hill with the reaction. good morning. >> that's right. we talked to a lot of federal workers and a lot of them say they are anxious and wondering and waiting to see if congress will go through with the shut down. >> we workers are paused and we don't like it. we really don't like it. >> 800,000 federal workers hanging in the balance. they are rushing to work this morning and could be sent home tomorrow if the congr

jerry conley and i are with a lot of those who heard by narrowly drawing the resolution. one in the senate resolution will make it clear that the only purpose of military action is to deter assad from future use of chemical weapons and make clear no boots on the ground and no extended bombing campaign and we are concerned about getting drawn into a serious civil war and we should not as a country be engulfed in that in a military way. we need to action in response to this out ramguous mass gassing. >> you are meeting with the chief of staff obviously. you were trying to help figure out a way to make this pass. when you talked to a member of congress, was there a common theme? >> the first concern has been with the evidence. after what happened in iraq, all of us had a special obligation. is there a doubt? they have recognized that. >> that's right. i think the un report i have high confidence. >> what is it? >> what's the appropriate action? we need to take other measures. the problem is we tried that. we tried to go to the un security council. russia is back and vetoed t

jerry conley of virginia who is just out of washington for employees and general contractors. good morning, sir. >> good morning. >> you are at all -- assuming the government does shut down, what are provisions that you think you think can be passed by the house and the senate to protect. you have the military pay issue and what else would you try to do while the whole shut down negotiation takes place. >> one has to remember this shut down unlike the one 17 years ago will be comprehensive. we have not passed a single appropriations bill. that's very different. >> that's a partial shut down. about half the government. >> this time it's 100%. where to begin. >> the military said one thing and you think another. >> social security. if you are signing up because you just became eligible. that will go at a backlog. >> if you get social security, you will get your check. >> if you don't, you get a background. >> americans are signing up for ben vits and veterans and social security and met care. all of that will be in the backlog. >> it seems hike you have to deal with both sides p

joining me now, democratic congressman jerry conley of virginia who served on the house foreign affairsttee. he co-drafted the resolution in the house and joins me now. thank you so much for being on the program. from where we see right now, this looks like the syria resolution authorizing -- the force in syria resolution is facing an uphill battle. >> well -- >> wait, quite an uphill battle. what we hear from the republican side is maybe at best they'll need votes to go with boehner. how many democratic votes you think pelosi can drum up? >> i think it's too early to say. i want to correct one thing i think you said in your introduction. i do not support the president's resolution. >> the narrow one? >> that's right, a much more narrow one. >> with ben allen. >> that's right. by the way, even more restrictive than the senate. the resolution that's drafted is open ended. it's not going to pass the house of representatives. nor is it going to pass the senate. >> why is that? >> because it is overly broad and open ended. the language of the resolution, the president is military action he

jerry conley, and he is a democrat and he said the main thing he is hearing is they don't want to gets going to happen within congress and in public opinion and in the international community between now and when we take that vote, so i still think that it's a work in progress and it's too early to predict one way or the other. >> he says he hopes that some language can be found that builds consensus working towards a yes vote, and what happens if the u.s. doesn't intervene. >> the president cancelled his trip to california so they could go ahead and lobby the lawmakers, and he is going to be advertising and talking to the nation on tuesday. >> let's talk about a different international story. america's unlikely diplomat, dennis rodman. this morning the worm left north korea after spending five days in the communist state, and it's not clear what he was up on his second tour, and he didn't do anything to free an american prisoner, but he did meet with his friend, the dictator, kim jong-un. >>> an unmanned rocket to the moon, watch. >> and we have liftoff. >> the launch was a historic

members of congress, like jerry conley, a democrat from northern virginia, are facing a tough decision. tell me what you're hearing from your constituents. do they want this to happen? do they want the u.s. to take action in syria? >> there are disparate voices. the dominant voice is we really don't want to get involved in syria. >> reporter: at all? >> well, it's hard to say that because if you get a chance to talk to people, then that opinion in some cases gets more sophisticated and some others it's just nothing, no how, i don't need to hear it. >> reporter: now, when he goes to events like this one -- >> what's the concern level in congress of actually putting into power somebody more dangerous or just as bad as assad? >> reporter: with a county bar association, he spends most of his time talking about syria. >> history suggests when we do nothing in the face of this kind of evil, it leads to worse evil. >> reporter: where do you stand today on this vote? >> i will not support the resolution submitted to congress by the white house lawyers. it's overly broad and it's open-ended. no

jerry conley of virginia. >> before it the stops ticking, the same amount of time please. also want to talk about the thoughtful statement that he made. it is quite correct. we are trying to make sure we understand what happened and prevent this occurrence. and i have been involved in this political game in this town for a long time. i was on the senate committee staff when the tragedy occurred were in and the feeble up not once but twice. i don't remember people calling for this, i don't remember a arb review of what happened although there should've been won. we understand that that is a national tragedy and we came together. >> i wish my colleagues would set the tone of this hearing, mr. chairman. i thank you for doing so. >> i would ask unanimous consent that my full consent be entered into the record. >> i thank the chair. part of that is a statement called fact versus fiction prepared by the reform committee staff. it lays out many of the commonly repeated accusations about benghazi that just aren't true. and so mr. ambassador, my good friend from florida would have