we're joined by jerry connelly from virginia and ryan costello. from pennsylvania. congressman costello, i'll start with you. you're leaving the house in a few days, the republicans losing the majority in a few days. do you see a realistic scenario where the shutdown is resolved before that turnover of power? >> i see no chance under the sun for the government being opened until new members are sworn in january 3rd or 4th. >> what will then happen? democrats would have control of the house, republicans maintain control of the senate. do you then see democratic control offering a renewed path? >> no, i think we're going to get less. to the extent you want more border security, you will have less, and jerry can speak to this more than i can, but i think the democratic bill out of the house that the senate will then take up will be less than the 100 to 0 senate vote that was had, or at least no better in terms of border security, which is why the freedom caucus and the president going this route makes zero political sense and zero legislative sense. >> jerry connelly,

jerry connelly, after the break. yeah, this is bob barnett in chicago. (john foley) i was there when bob barnett made the first commercial wireless phone call. we were both working on that first network that would eventually become verizon's. that call opened the door to the billions of mobile calls that we've all made since. i'm proud i was part of that first call, and i'm proud that i'm here now as we build america's first and only 5g ultra wideband network that will transform how we all live, once again. (bob) the first call that we've made on the cellular system. >>> this just in. we're getting our first look at the 8-year-old boy who died in federal custody, felipe gomez alon d alonso. an investigation into his death continues at this hour. a 7-year-old also from guatemala died in custody earlier this month. k kirsten nielsen says there will be a change in policy. seeing a picture certainly does drive it home. is there a sense among people who have been on the front lines with these folks that what was announced yesterday, the changes that were anno

joining me now is democratic congressman jerry connelly, on house oversight and foreign affairs committeesman, good morning. >> good to be with you again, jim. >> the money for the president's wall along the southern border is a key part of this. it strikes me that the president is basically daring democrats to vote against him on this, on that funding. will you vote against the president's demand for $5 billion? >> i will not support $5 billion, and i don't believe any of us have an obligation to do that. he, after all, promised that he would build a wall and mexico would pay for it, not the u.s. taxpayer and i take him at his word. >> so are you willing, if the president and republicans have a government shutdown over this issue? >> i don't certainly favor a government shutdown. the president has said that he favors a shutdown and called it a good thing. what we need, he said, was a good government shutdown. there is no such thing. a shutdown is a failure in terms of the function of government. no, i don't favor a government shutdown but neither do i favor a gun to my head to accept $5 b

. >> harris: congressman jerry connelly of the great state of virginia.ou for your time. >> thank you, harris. >> harris: the congressional leaders unveiling a two-week extension, the deadline has scooted. that happened last hour. now, washington dealing with the politics of that. we are also morning former president george hw but. could more negotiating time of the parties reach a compromise? two men who have been on the front line of the fight. stay close. ♪ our cohonorably. one of the benefits that we as a country give you as a veteran is the eligibility for a va loan for up to 100% of your home's value. if you need cash for your family, call newday usa. with automatic authority from the va, we can say yes when banks say no. give us a call. call now: 1-855-376-1361. i can't say it's the highlight dadof fatherhood.... but i'd rather be here with my little man than not be here because of migraine. i have three words for migraine... "i am here." aimovig, a preventive treatment for migraine in adults, reduces the number of monthly migraine days. for some,