and jerry falwell says that means we get two or three judges.volve a religious test for the first time in american life. let's take the example that the president cites. i believe in prayer. my family prays. we've never had any difficulty finding time to pray. but do we want a constitutional amendment adopted of the kind proposed by the president that gets the local politicians into the business of selecting prayers that our children must either recite in school or be embarrassed and asked to excuse themselves? who would write the prayer? what would it say? how would it be resolved when those disputes occur? it seems to me that a moment's reflection tells you why the united states senate turned that amendment down, because it will undermine the practice of honest faith in our country by politicizing it. we don't want that. >> thank you, mr. mondale. our time is up for this round. we go into the second round of our questioning, begin again with jim wieghart. jim? >> after that discussion, this may be like going from the sublime to the ridiculous,

for gin is the home state of the jerry falwell and pat robinson -- virginia is the home state of jerry falwell and pat robertson. what you see in northern virginia, in less religiously oriented part of the state, is that jerry falwell and pat robertson have little impact, perhaps only in a negative wait for many voters. you see as part of the state where a lack of religious attendance explains greater democratic voting. host: stephen farnsworth teaches political science at the university. virginia, democrats' line, hello. caller: professor farnsworth just spoke about the financial part of it. a lot of people are not aware of the koch brothers' part in everything, the citizens united thing, the supreme court, not aware that clarence thomas has a financial conflict of interest, due to his wife's role as the ceo of liberty central, and that the koch brothers -- their ancestry comes from hitler -- not from hitler, but from nazi germany. their grandparents were part of nazi germany, connected to concentration camps. they have done a lot of polluting -- host: your question for art guest? cal

he doesn't run around liberty university or hang around with jerry falwell, but he wants their support. he's not really a ryan republican ideologue conction politici, buhe p himn thck isn't that the fundamental problem with the guy? he wants to date these people through the election. he wants their support, but he doesn't want to be one of them. he doesn't want to marry them. is that true? >> yes. look, chris, thi he'a person who is fundamentally ill suited to being the republican nominee given what the republican party currently is. and you could say that on a bunch of different levels. it's an evangelical party and it's a southern and western -- southern and western party, he's a northeasterner. it's a populist party. he's more or less an establishmentarian. he wanted to say barack obama has failed as an economic steward, and i'm a business guy and so i know how to create jobs. and as soon as that fell a inathe enomy was doing better, as soon as people started to think that this was about policies for the future and not ju about a referendum on the past, he's found himself adrift in

ivtyharowi r arod liberty jerry falwell, but he wants their support. he's not really a ryan publican ideologue convictio politician, but he put him on the ticket. isn't that the fundamental problem wi the guy? he wants to date these people through the election. he wants their support, but he doesn't want to be one of them. he doesn't want to marry them. is that true? >> yes. okchri i t hs a suit to ing the republican nominee given what the republican party currently is. and you could say that on a bunch of different levels. it's an evangelical party and he's a mormon. it's a southern and western -- southern and western party, he's a northeasterner. 's a populist party. he'sore or less an tablishmentarian. heanted say barack obama haileds coc arnd ainguy and so i know how to create jobs. and as soon as that fell away, as soon as people started to think that the economy was doing better, as soon as people started to think that this was about policies for the future and not just about a referendum on t past, he's found himself adrift in terms of what the

and conservatives in alabama who talk like they are jerry falwell and living like they are in the 60s hippies because they are taking drugs and sleeping around. i'm overgeneralizing but you've got this perversity with the people who live right, talk left, and the people who talk right, live left. >> rose: we think we have problems, look at the chinese. they had the future president disappeared for ten days and nobody knows where he is. >> that would be extremely popular in this country. >> rose: we have the europeans who have one more time to say we've finally got it going here. we're finally going to fix everything. >> that why the dollar is so strong. >> rose: the same thing they say every turn, we have finally got it under control. who is doing well in the world. >> we are the least ugly guy at the prom. >> rose: that's exactly right. >> that's item dollar is still hanging in there. >> rose: compared to what. >> so you know. >> rose: like. >> this is-- people are in a bad mood for obvious reasons, legitimate reasons. but do we have a plan? america by any book you've read, any pundi