i became a scatter blister for jerry ford. a group of college students that were deployed to go door to door campaigning for jerry ford. we went in michigan, ohio, then i wentconsin, to the kansas city convention and we blitzed there. nd would go and create noise a enthusiasm. >> to defeat the reagan forces. i know you would join them later. back, it was a very interesting and informative time. >> i heard president ford speak in crisler arena. i guess it was the first president i ever laid eyes on. here's a question from one of our guests. how will your policies affect low income rural communities with few nonpublic schools available? >> this is a good question. rural communities have unique challenges. let's just take a hypothetical. a rural community with a k12 students,a couple 300 even if that school is the finest possible for the students attending, there's probably a handful of kids for which that particular approach to learning may not work. kids be ablethose school ina micro that same building that may have a different

imagine what former president jerry ford would have said.he new republican campaign to try to discredit house intelligence chairman adam schiff. >> little pencil neck adam schiff. he's got the smallest, thinnest neck i've ever seen. he is not a long ball hitter. >> joining me now, nbc white house correspondents which ten welker, peter baker, chief white house correspondent at "the new york times," anne gearan, and msnbc contributor jonathan capehart. kristen welker, that rally vintage donald trump. it was certainly the start, if you will, of the 2020 reelect campaign. >> it certainly was, andrea. it gave us a good preview of what we can expect to see. president trump declaring victory and vindication over the russia investigation despite the fact, as you say, the full mueller report has not yet been made public, but also taking very sharp aim at his political rivals, adam schiff among them. he also took aim at elizabeth warren, no surprise there. and this is the president in his element. he thrives off a big crowd that's feeding off his ener

if you study the convention in 1980, you'll know that he went to great lengths to romance jerry ford to come back to be vice president. i saw president ford after that blew up and i said -- and i had been his campaign chairman in 1976, i said, you know, if that had happened, it never would have worked. we would never have known what to call you. were we going to call you mr. president vice president or vice president mr. president? [laughter] fortunately, reagan himself, with some of his senior aides being opposed said, get me bush. and they had a wonderful relationship for eight years. and he was a quintessential vice president for that president. i know for a fact that they both concluded that he made the right choice. no doubt. mr. boston. -- mr. boston no doubt. : after president reagan's second term ended, george bush won the 1988 election and became 's 41st president. during his presidency, he served as his secretary of state. during those years among other things, the berlin wall fell, the cold war ended, germany became unified, and the u.s. led an international coalition to wi

the president is going to jerry ford's old congressional district, a deep red spot on the map. do you expect him to relitigate the last two years and report, obviously, the highlights as he sees them of the four-page letter? >> brian, there's nothing president trump loves more than relitigaing the past, especially when he thinks he got the upper hand. so yes, i anticipate he'll talk about some of this at that rally on thursday. one thing that's important to keep in mind i think is he's not out of the woods yet. eventually, we don't know when it will be but eventually we expect the public will be able to see a good deal of this mueller report and it could, in fact, contain very damaging information about president trump even though he was not found to have done any criminal wrong doing. and part of what president trump is doing right now is taking the summary conclusions in that bill barr letter as a headline for him to try to just say over and over and over again, exoneration, no collusion, no obstruction. and blanket over any details, inoculate himself from what could eventual

. >> jerry ford, he pardoned nixon. everybody like me was saying ib want to know what happened.hen it comes out, next wednesday, who knows when, will we get a sense of what happened with russia and trump? >> as you know watergate came out 40 years later. >> will -- >> here's the problem. you have stuff that will inevitably be in the report that you shouldn't see because it's classified or grand jury information. there's a way to handle classified information. there's a way to handle grand jury information. but if you have ongoing investigations and i imagine we do in the southern district of no new york and elsewhere, that should remain confidenseal. >> i was going to say the one thing that they did have is they didn't really have a report in watergate. they had a a road map to follow what the grand jury testimony and the evidence told them. and the same thing could happen here. you may not get a report from mueller but you may and we already do have from the litany, the variety of indictments and proscuss that have already taken place, there's a a pretty good road map already f

jerry ford pardoned richard nixon. would you consider pardoning trump if you took the presidency?irst of all -- >> you said you want to unite the country. wouldn't that unite the country? >> you're pushing me to a lot of hypotheticals here. >> you're running for president. >> what has he been convicted of? >> start with obstruction of justice. you've got to believe that is in play here. he fired his fbi director because he wouldn't swear his allegiance to him on the issues that he's being investigated on. he gets rid of his attorney general because he recused himself on the issues he was being investigated on. >> this is the problem that a lot of -- this is why our justice system has lost so much legitimacy. as brian stevenson says, we've got a justice system that treats you better if you're rich and guilty than poor and innocent. there's a whole lot of people who i'm looking to pardon who are being punished unfairly. there were more marijuana arrests in 2017 than all the violent crime arrests combined. you know who doesn't get arrested for smoking marijuana? people on yale's camp

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