joining me now is captain jerry hendrix of the united states navy, retired.nd at the center for new american security. and ana maria cox. most weekends with the "new york times". podcast host as well of "with friends like these." you heard the secretary. has donald trump kept his promise or has he broken it? >> the jury is still out on that. the secretary is committed to this. there seems to be a plan. i was pleased with what he said of trying to ramp up production of new ships. but looking at some of the innovative approaches, for instance, bringing the perry class out of inactive research or service life extension programs for older ships where we need to are taeupb the capabilitie capabilities. i heard his response with regard to the statement by the accounting undersecretary two days ago about the fact that this is going to take a long time. that is the example of the long-term career approach to this, which is a 30-year plan rather than getting on it of the box and going with some of these more innovative approaches. >> ann marie, i wanted you to come on