and jerry kelman really was his coach, his teacher, in the place where he finds and he's not responsible for everybody, because jeremiah wright is also very important in this. it's the place and time where he finds seriousness, a sense of idealism, a sense of community and a sense of home. even hawaii so some extent, he wasn't going back there. there's nothing for him there. what's going to be the congressman from honolulu? the south side of chicago, not just chicago, the south side, that was home. he also found a church. and that was very important. jeremiah wright is an essential figure in the early time frame. >> and he found michelle. >> and he found michelle obama when he became back, he did an internship at a law firm and there was michelle obama who had proceeded him at harvard law. she was about the same age, but because he had been an organizer, they weren't together at harvard law. and he was knocked out by her. she job not -- she, not so fast. >> she's an interesting character. because she keeps him grounded when the world is going crazy and the world seems to rise up and gree