jerry mandering must ent.bility from our elected leaders and use values to expose the interests that are crippling washington. these are the ways to break this alliance. >> we as a society, of course, have a massive opportunity to seize those values and choice in even the smallest way. here to help us learn how to do that, friends of the show and teachers of mine. arianna huffington. i really want to point out the author of the book "third world america." it's a delight to see both of you. thank you. arianna, when you wrote this book, what do you point to as the symptoms of the misaligned interested in everything in our society? how are people feeling? >> first of all, dylan, congratulations. it's great to have the book out. for you to dare to challenge the status quo. when it was written about two years ago, it seemed a little too much. but we're seeing that, in fact, the heart of the prediction, which was the downward mobility, the growing çinequalities, basically destroying the american dream, destroying t

i don't think it's accurate to say we have jerry mandered the districts. rutherford has gone out of the way to have a fair process. at the congressional and the legislative races. many of the republicans will have to face each other or have been drawn out. i'm not sure that is an accurate read. with respect to governor scott, he has done what he was elected to do. it was a time as you know in a cycle where people were very upset about tax dollars and how they were spent and that we have been unable to balance the budget. he helped to create jobs and grow the economy and has seen turn around in florida. one of the highest unemployment rates that started to come down. jobs have been create and businesses being created and she of a single focus on bringing jobs and growing the economy and reducing regulation. i think that verdict is out and he is coming at a difficult time. you have seen things start to improve. >> tell us about your past history with c-span. >> i am much cold e older the first time i appeared. when i was 16 years old i was involved in the cl

now they are also in the middle of a huge push against jerry mandering, particularly in new york, alongith redistricting. joining us now is a man that not anl understanding the importance of both movements but has reformed the primary system in california. lieutenant governor of california, it's nice to see you. >> great to talk to you. >> i want to move beyond the money in politics issue and take advantage of your expertise on the issues of gerrymandering and primary reform. while money in politics may be the most glaring challenge, it's not our only challenge. lay out how the system distorts our intent beyond money. >> first of all, you're right. money is a problem in politics. there's three things in politics. number one is money. number two and three, i can't remember. in california, also the election process is in important. redistricting is very important. we passed it in california. they drew the lines for the people of this great shat. the way we had it in the past, we had the majority party, or majority politicians get into a smoke-filled room, draw the lines, and you add that