jerry gold fetter with us a veteran election lawyer who also teaches election law at fordham law school and lincoln mitchellng domestic, political campaigns. and to you first, jerry, this headline written in 2019, how do you reflect on that now considering the response you got at the time? >> well, unfortunately we were right. we knew who we were dealing with an authoritarian personality in trump. and we knew that there were very multiple vulnerabilities in our electoral system. listen, none other than michael cohen, trump's former lawyer and fixer, testified to congress in 2019 that if trump were defeated that there would not be a peaceful transition. we've had 59 presidential elections in this country. ten incumbents have been defeated. they were not re-elected. they were not happy about the whole thing, but they graciously or not so graciously turned over the keys to the white house and left. we always had a feeling that trump would not do that. so we put it out there, as did michael cohen. >> lincoln, what do you worry about now moving forward? >> i worry that not much has changed. in 2018, 2019 jerry a