karen coates and jerry redfern, welcome to democracy now! welcome back. jerry, let's begin with you. your response to the $90 million that president obama has pledged to help whilst clear -- laos clear itself of these unexploded bombs. >> first of all, thank you for having us back on and good morning to both you and nermeen. the $90 million that obama pledged at first sounds like a lot, but really, when you run the math and do the numbers, you see it is actually a fairly nominal increase in the overall spending that america has been spending for the last several years for cleaning up the problem in laos. when you put it in context of the amount of u.s. -- unexploded bombs that remain in the ground at laos, it is a fairly small amount. nermeen: could you specify, jerry, how much is a percentage of these bombs have already been cleared? >> nobody knows. that is kind of the problem. the numbers that everybody talks about and that you brought up, their accurate as far as we know. that said, we also note that is the low estimate of it. the 580,000 missions, we