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joining me now for a look at the 2016 election, karen tumulty is with the washington post, jerry seibs with the wall street journal. thank you for being here. it was no great surprise that she was in. she had an unusual rollout. the video and between, and then the video. was it successful? karen: who knows. we can tell you in november 2016. it seemed like everything, interestingly enough, last time she also started with a video over a weekend. the message of this video seemed to be, remember how i did it last time? i am not doing it that way again. al: the non-2008 hillary. jerry? jerry: i thought it was an interesting illustration of how she can't do the things other candidates have to do. she does not have to prove that she can fill a ballroom with supporters. she doesn't need to prove that she can raise a million dollars. we know she can do that. she doesn't have to establish foreign policy credentials. we know she can do that. she has to go to grass-roots with regular people and prove that she can do that, prove that she can relate to regular people and talk to them on the ground.