jerry storch of hudson's bay compapa, which owns saks fifth avenue and lord & taylor, says black friday still remains the premiere shopping day of the year. >> and so you'll see these sales all toughout november that are called "black friday sales" but they're not really black friday. the sales are not as deep and the customer's not ready to go shopping. those are all the pre-season. this is the first g ge of the seasonon this is the start of the holiday period. >> reporter: some retailers admit, elaine, that because of a warm fall, they have an excesss of w wter apparelel that they're hoping to sell very soon. >> quijano: jericka duncan reporting for us. jericka, thanks. coming up, "on the road"" with steve hartman.ber of miles, making it really hard to book the flight you want. luckily, there's a better way... with the capital one venture card. th venture, you'll earn unlimited double miles on every purchase, every day. and when you're ready to travel, just book the flight you want, on any airline, then use your miles cover the cost. now you're g gting somewhere. [phone ringing when y