>> jerry yang, years before. >> so what does that have to do with your new friend?steve jobs had arm holdings when he was trying to turn apple around as an investment with apple. yahoo! has alibaba. i think the message from marissa mayer is leave me alone, i got this. she put some hard numbers on it and display is worse than a lot of people realize, dropping $50 million per quarter. the problem that still exists is that there's no major accelerant that we can see to where mobile is. it gets yahoo! alive. it doesn't necessarily take them to the next level. it's not clear that they're entirely in charge. how do you get a 2x from here? she needs to do something. >> that's what i -- i still didn't see a vision from marissa in items of what this company is. >> when we were on the phone, i asked, i said, what is it? what are you? she basically said, it's going to be a little bit of a complicated explanation. and i think she's trying to figure out what to do with the assets. but i guess the only thing i would suggest, and maybe i am drinking the kool-aid, i feel like at le