jacket jesus shoes jesus had a go to the jesus disco and you know in all of this and i mean even for a middle class family if you want to get along in that kind of lifestyle maybe you're in or in a small town you know i mean it's very impressive because again it gets down to dollars and cents. i found out a title at all sort of a very seriously i'm afraid i think what the other brothers are sighing right you know in terms of the integrity of trying to present the goal of good marketing i think should be to make their message clear not to make it more more attractive to the mass market. but philip how do you do that i mean we're here yes go ahead. one of the difficulties with the with the current marketing model is that most folks who are marketing christianity assume that the people in the pews are the market so we've got to sell the gospel to the people in the pews but if you look at the bible there was a purchase that's a marketing kind of thing that's quite different the purchase in christianity is that jesus christ purchased his people with his blood on the cross so we are to app

jeans jesus. eccentrics cetera i mean where do you draw the line because i mean i know that we are there and young people have different needs and interests and whatnot and christianity wants to be up with the times to be able to be. deal with modernity but where do you draw the line. i think it was caused by i do said the retelling the gospel is to look also in the language of the day without importing the valleys and that's often a very how blind to draw i think we do always run the risk of the why be present things on the cutting the actual truth we're trying to present. i think we've got a basic problem in terms of trying to use marketing ploys because marketing is always trying to scratch where people are itching and i think the christian gospel doesn't do that i mean i love the paper i'm a way they're reaching what they want is more money a better sex lies a more successful business and i think the christian gospel office there are many other things you know out of mind so think the challeng

many times muslims will have a dream about jesus. if there is not a christian in their village or city, they seek. they look for a bible. they turn on the tv. many times they are led to christ through television or radio. god uses believers that they run into and god gives them a devine appointment. right now, 93 percent of the globe gets christian radio and so even many mecca, we know people here, radio programs, television breaks through. in iran, they get people to throw away satellite dishes. they forbid them. then it ends up, a couple of weeks later, the people rehook them up and watching television again. there is a fear of the gospel getting in there. it is getting through electronically. >> what is the best way to share the gospel with a muslim 1 on 1? >> put away all of your preconceived notions and prejudices. they are not all terrorists. just by the very fact they left the middle east to come here shows they are dissatisfied with something. they are open to the gospel. respect, love, honor to them. not arguing, not talking

jesus. jesus. >> she's not taking the name in vain. it's what she sees. we'll show you more of this. new visitation valley library opened today, with a traditional good-luck lion dance. the new >>> san francisco's library opened today with a traditional good luck lion dance. the new facility is nearly 10,000 square feet. four times the size of the old library. it cost more than $13 million. paid for by a bond measure several years ago. >>> there's been yet another heavenly sighting in the united states. the image of jesus, only this time people are seeing something divine in the vines. jeanie gives us a look. >> reporter: they see just overgrown vines or does this look like the big operator in the sky. >> oh my goodness. jesus. jesus. jesus christ. >> often these jesus sightings require lots of imagination, whether it be jesus orkey cheeto jesus. even a virgin mary could be madonna. ♪ [ music ] but this telephone pole in littleton, colorado, strikes most people the same way. >> what do you see? >>

is salvation limited only to those who profess faith in jesus christ? one prominent evangelical pastor has re-opened the ancient debe. kim lawton reports. ♪ i can only imagine ♪ what i will do >>> for millennia, people have being trying to imagine what happens after death. is there a heaven? who gets in? and what happens to those who don't? >> everybody dies. we want to hope that the people we love we'll see again, and we want to hope that our own identities and our own consciousness and maybe even our own bodies exist in some other realm after we're gone from this earth. >> books trying to provide answers to these age-old questions continue to be bestsellers. one of them "love wins" by michigan mega church pastor rob bell has ignited an intense new debate, particularlymong evangelical christians. >> a lot of people, the conception they we handed of thchriian ith that you go around making judgments, so-and-so we know for sure is burning forever in that place. you don't know that. that's speculation. >> if you reject the kingdom of god, it doesn't really

this is called just like jesus. if i get struck down by thunder. just like jesus. i want childhood to be, evading teen angst. always. i want to encourage and motivate just like jesus. few literates could conquer. simply by having faith, i want to arouse. make you believe there's a god above watching over us. without scientific explanation. i want to cast out your demons. liberate your oppressed soul. bring back lost friends. just like jesus, be a shameless pervert while with the possibility of sexism and paternal. just like jesus, i want to hear the voice of my farther. bask in the stars, this is not an end but a beginning. a sepia tone of martarism. i want my engage capturred. to frame the minds of ignorants. while blindly following leaders. i want to be nestled, half naked against your chest. claiming your spirit when you come. with the promise of salvation. i simply want to life before i die. i have two more poems. this is all new. wrote it for harold bloom. he first called it the death of art and. reading well is one the greatest pleasures. i am dedicating to h

who knows they met you walk on the water where jesus walked. thanks for joining us, until next week, from all of us here on "christia

the one kids want to eat ♪ jesus christ superstar ♪ do you think you are what they say you are ♪ ♪ jesusre what they say you are ♪ >>> "jesus christ superstar" the music that propelled you into the strattosphere. very controversial at the time. of course this moment the musical is exploding and winning tonys. >> i don't know. maybe you can't, maybe some people these days you can't shock people. but we never wrote superstar to be in any way shocking. we wrote it because we wanted to write the story of the man. in fact, we really wanted to write a love triangle because the whole thing was, did jesus christ have god on his side. which bob dillon and i did. did jesus get betrayed. what's very thrilling for me is that this production up in canada. it's really the first time that i've seen the love triangle absolutely tackled broad side. >> you've created these amazing musicals. in '76 it's launched. even now people are doing new versions of them. >> it depends on the quality of the actors and performers. this one is very well acted. superstar nobody was interested in doing it in the theater w

jesus perez for seat 10. and linda pierce for a seat 11. we can do that without opposition cannot elect to continue seat nine until the end. if that is ok. thank you very much. i just want to thank again all the members who have come out today in the middle of the work day for this committee. madam clerk, would you please call item number two? >> gehring to consider appointing one member, a term ending january 31, 2013, to the mental health board. there is one seat and two applicants. supervisor kim: thank you. may we have ms. lena miller? >> good afternoon, supervisors. thank you for having me. i am the founder and co- executive director of the hunters point family. i was very excited to learn about this seat, because i started out my career with an interest in mental health. i thought i was going to be a psychiatrist and a kind of work with youth 1-on-one. but i came of age in the 1980's, which is sent -- when our community really started to change for the worse. we saw the epidemic of crack and also machine guns, and really a lot of pain

christ according to matthew -- seeing the multitudes, jesus went up into a mountain and when he waset, his disciples came unto him. he opened his mouth and it taught them blessed are the poor and spirit for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. blessed are they that mourn for they shall be comforted. blessed are the meek for they shall inherit the earth. blessed are they which to wonder and thirst after righteousness for they shall be filled. blessed are the merciful for they shall obtain mercy. blessed are the pure in heart for they shall see god. blessed are the peacemakers for they shall be called the children of god. blessed are they who are persecuted for righteousness for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. blessed are ye when men shall revile you and persecute you and shell said all manner of evil against you falsely for my sake. rejoice and be exceedingly glad for great is your report in heaven, for the profits which are before you, the gospel of the lord. >> praise be to crest. --christ. [no audio] >> betty ford was my friend and i am honored to be here today to help celebrate the

evidence doesn't say he believes in jesus christ and jesus' teaching. >> he calls himself a cultural christian. who are we to decide whether he is a christian or not? my point. >> bill: mussolini said he was a christian and mussolini went to church, he was a catholic. that's insane. you can call yourself whatever you want. here's the difference. there is no evidence this man was a member of a church. no evidence that he followed the teachings of jesus christ, as you know. they are nonviolent. okay? no evidence that he had anything to do with the christian faith. yet, they call him a christian because he says he is? come on. >> well, i mean, how are we to know? i mean if somebody says they are a christian, then you have to take them at their word? >> no, you don't. i don't think mussolini was a christian. and i absolutely don't. >> you and i got into a debate about whether the fort hood shooter should have been called a muslim terrorist. >> bill: correct. >> i think there are over a billion muslims in the world. i think most muslims would tell that you guy is not a muslim because we d

say "jesus christ superstar" or "evita".y are strong stories. >> it opens and the criticism is heavy. everybody is saying this won't survive and gone on to be a huge hit. >> yes. i think, although "evita" was a big hit in london. "evita" when it opened here had pretty bad reviews. then the mood sort of changed. i think that's an intriguing one because in the kind of late '70s america was a little bit in denial about talking about anything political. you remember the time. after vietnam, after everything and i remember writing in the early days of the "evita" run we hit the -- same time of the russian invasion of afghanistan which nobody understood what was going on. i'm going off on a tangent. it changed -- suddenly people started to talk about politics again and said well maybe eva peron and what we were trying to say there was an interesting subject. >> how much did the critics get to you over the years? >> i didn't care very much if i don't think that the critics understand music. >> but somebody you respect, what's the m

jesus' own texts are nonviolent throughout. the sermon on the mount, you turn the cheek, you do all these things. and he's rarely been followed all the way. bonhoeffer, certainly, made an appeal to it. his probably greatest book, most influential book is a little book called "the cost of discipleship," which is nothing but his interpretation of jesus and the sermon on the mount. it's a very famous line in there, you know, jesus says you follow me, you're high risk. and bonhoeffer said, when jesus christ calls a person, he calls him or her to die. so he was that devoted to what's this. but he -- what's there. but he also enjoyed the life that jesus also enjoyed. >> bonhoeffer could have died either way. >> with what's that? >> bonhoeffer could have died either way, nonviolently resisting hitler. he did die probably trying to resist hitler. >> yeah. well, it took him l a year and a half to get to him, but, yes, he knew he was doomed. again, if you're trying to shoot the head man, you're doomed. they had all the power, and they go

jesus' own texts are nonviolent throughout. there's all these things, and he's rarely been followed all the way dietrich bonhoeffer made an appeal to that. probably his greatest book is the cost of discipleship which is nothing but his interpretation of jesus and the sermon on the mount. there's a line in there where jesus says you follow me, it's your risk. when jesus christ calls a person, he calls him or her to die. he was that devoted to what's there, but he also enjoyed the life that jesus also enjoyed. >> he could have died either way. >> but that -- >> he could have died either way, nonviolently. >> yeah, it took him a year and a half to get to him, but yes, he knew his doom. if you're trying to shoot the head man, you're doomed. they had all the power, and they got him, so there's nothing, no other alternative for him. he could only live by his witness. thank you. >> another question. sir, thank you. >> as one who is not even sure how to spell, dietrich bonhoeffer, know little about him. what led up to his imprisonment

for now, police believe that jesus is traveling alone. again, they do not suspect foul play, but they're trying to track down the exact location of that day from hound bus so they can get hold of him and bring him back to his mom and dad who no doubt will have a lot of questions for that 13-year-old boy tonight. in san jose, nbc bay area news. >> before you go, why los angeles? should they have any indication of why he's headed there? >> reporter: no, and they didn't think he had the capacity to even travel alone of he's never out without his mother. his mothers says that he doesn't speak clearly, he speaks slowly. i'm positive that they have no idea, they had no idea that he was kachable of doing such a -- capable of doing such a thing on his own. >> of course we'll continue to follow the story and hopefully jesus will be home soon. >>> a former california assembly speaker, fabian nunez, is speaking out. his recent comments are angering the parents of a college student who was stabbed to death. nunez's son was sentenced to 17 years for t

>> god or jesus. >> jesus on a cross. >> jesus. >> reporter: what do you see? >> oh!e a crown of thorns, the body's positioning. >> look at the legs, see, like, you know, he's, like -- yeah. >> down like this, he's like that. >> reporter: but while you might think a telephone pole jesus is pretty unique, it turns out he's not alone. vine-covered utility poles have been sprouting religious images all over the country. >> it looks like jesus hanging on the cross. >> reporter: from north to louisiana. >> it was a bunch of vines. >> reporter: this one in lake charles, louisiana, from last fall was said to be most striking when seen as you drove by. one local was quoted as saying you can't spray jesus with roundup. workers did cut down the vines. officials were worried believers would climb the pole to touch the greenery and get an electrifying jolt. now, if you're having trouble seeing jesus on telephone poles, maybe what you need is the jesus pan. it's supposed to put the image of jesus right on food. advertising for the jesus pan says, imagine serving heavenly hotcakes

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well, it turns out jesus does not know everything. for more, fox news stu vashny sy makes words come out of his mouth. >> when you think of poverty, you think of this. but what if i told you it really looks like this. a new report showing poor families in the united states are not what they used to be. i'm just going to give our viewers a quick run-through of what items poor families in america have. 99% of them have a refrigerator. (laughter) 81% have a microwave. >> stephen: a refrigerator and a microwave? they can preserve and heat food?

they're the arguably but ok my point isn't that he's doing this in the name of jesus you know my point was that he was born christian he was this is this guy's not a muslim terrorist and his brother was motivated by a number of right wing fundamentalists in the united states not some christian probably most of them people that you and i would agree are not actually christians but they were you know hate mongers basically is not only a matter of time before their words fall on an american and shouldn't the d.h.s.s. the department homeland security be focusing on this. well you look at what happened to dates on we arrested another individual who was planning to attack fort hood he was a muslim or he was a soldier he have weapons he had bomb material that he was carrying with them he was spotted by a gun store owner he wasn't stopped by all of the security that you're talking about that's been devoted to islamic terrorism of the united states this is where the threat is coming from this is where i think more resources need to be devote yet but well and good point and ear talking about a a

christ in a free market economy where jesus jeans christian rock and even jesus pills are available that's up next here. still. below in welcome to cross talk i'm peter lavelle does the lord need marketing some are selling christian rock jesus jeans and even jesus pills is this the right way to promote christianity in the twenty first century or is it a new profitable metion for those who have nothing to do with face.

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