hyde heidi prez bow la, cj o'rourke, and jess mcintosh, a former clinton campaign advise youor. thank you. this is going to be a great group. the pope is speaking on what i think he considers moral or human behavior grounds, not exactly political grounds. and his voice was heard coming from vancouver, heidi. and the same day, the president is out saying, greatest tax cut in history. biggest -- you know. maybe he's right. maybe the monkey typed merry christmas this time because it probably is the best tax give away that the rich could conceive of. >> trump thinks he is humble, and he said so actually. when the pope came in, he tweeted, i'm humble just like the pope. the iron are is people who are humble don't have to go out and say it. >> i am so humble. i am the humblest ever. >> who was that in my ear? >> the joker has come here, jack nicholson. go ahead. it's highly timely actually. p.j., this bragging about humility is, i guess, an o oxymor oxymoron. your thoughts now, sir. less gastric than they just were. >> i'm irish catholic. you know, what the pope says goes. trump is ep

. >> i'm joined by jess mcintosh. i don't care either way about the xm bank, but some of the nato receipt rec was worrying. obviously they're not going to balance the budget in four years. i guess there's some way in which it's encouraging to see them move towards reality. >> i think they have to move towards it. that is like the cheerfulest spin i could possibly put on the fact that the president has no idea what he's doing. the president doesn't know anything about foreign policy or domestic policy, and he has no interest in learning it. the guy that we saw today in that interview is the same guy who said, health care is hard. who knew? and everyone around him raises their hand and says, we actually knew this. we knew that health care was hard. so he backtracks real ick. i am happy to see that he is willing to backtrack. i guess it would be weirder if he was, like, no, nato is still terrible now that he knows what nato does. >> right. he had another moment, the health care is complicated today when talking about nor