joining me now, political analyst michael steele be a went with me onset, former campaign adviser, jess mcintosh. we are showing images of the protest on the screen, so you guys wouldn't know that. jess, let's start with you. actually, i will start with michael. this is more after question for you. donald trump used images of disorder during his campaign at his rallies to his advantage. by saying he would be the law and order candidate. >> yeah. >> do you expect he will try and use these images in the same way or at the very least, are they going to have that subconscious effect on those who believe in donald trump? >> i think for those who believe in donald trump, this is a european affirmation of what they already know about what's going on here in america, for example. so the dot is connected in that regard. i don't think these protests in hamburg will have any real impact on what donald trump says or does. he may reference it offhand. he may juice the goose a little bit, if you will, katy, to you know, get some play back here at home for his base. but i think overall, i think he knows what h