revere revere reverend jess reverend jesse jackson, thanks for joining us this morning. so nice to see you. really important conversation we are having about inequality of wealth. inequality money in america. what is the number one factor in your view, the number one factor in your view that 50 years of progress we have not made progress on money? >> we are free but not equal. as a matter of fact free but less equal. i think one impetus was the housing rate. in chicago, jobs out. the industrial collapse. there's a big factor in it. this past summer, some of grants. last year, chicago 800 students and this year it has 500. grants. more house colors without the king, with the school. parent plus loans. the schools, faculty. >> it's not one thing. it's a lot of things really moved forward and propelled most recently by the housing crisis. when you look at the recovery, even in the recovery, you see people with money, people with jobs, people with homes doing great. there's one group of america making a lot of money right now. and everyone else is falling behind. >> the bank

if jesse jackson was trying to incite people, the reverend jesse jackson last year, we at least should give him benefit at this point, a year later for saying, you know what? whatever the verdict is, let's not riot, let's not have a problem. is it credible? i have no reason to believe it isn't credible. but, laura, what i think is even more stunning, is when jay carney says, well, you know, the president really isn't watching this case. wait a minute, this is the same president who heard about fast and furious by watching the news in 2011. he heard about the irs targeting conservative groups by watching the news this year. and, yet, the president got involved in a local case that he he had absolutely no involvement in. it was not a national issue because of the race issue when he was in the middle of a campaign. a contentious campaign for president. so, what you have got here is people sometimes talking out of both sides of their mouths. i have to give people the benefit of the doubt and say the president knew he made a mistake. jesse jackson knew he made a mistake. let's just go with