his name is jesse benton. turns the out to be an awkward thing, because jesse benton is also currently playing a leading role in a federal investigation into the ron paul for president campaign. specifically the question of whether or not under his watch the ron paul for president campaign bribed people for ron paul endorsements. the specific concern is whether the ron paul campaign, under benton in 2012, bribed this bald guy, a former iowa state senator named kent sorenson, in the lead up to the 2012 iowa caucuses, kent sorenson had been the state co-chair for the michele bachmann presidential campaign, but then really dramatically, just a few days before the iowa caucuses that year, he switched teams. he publicly ditched michele bachmann and said, i'm endorsing ron paul. we now know that kent sorenson did that because the ron paul campaign was paying him off. kent sorenson pled guilty last year to accepting cash to switch his support to ron paul, and to then working with the ron paul campaign to essentially

which even jesse benton, his 2010 campaign manager told me he can't scout on them being as fired up inbecause of those things. at the same time he has not really won over huge swaths of the republican establishment yet. he is kind of in a no man's land where the activists are not happy. we'll see what direction he ends up going, but it will be -- i think he has to choose one side or the other and just grab it all of the way. >> the neo-cons hate that guy so much. thank you for being here. >> speaking of foreign policy joining me now is the foreign policy advisor. i would love there to be a republican in this field who articulates a vastly different alternative to foreign policy, but i can't, for the life of me, identify what that is that we're talking about at this moment. >> i don't know what you mean about a vastly different foreign policy. i think what he did in his speech today and what he has been doing for the last six or 12 months is talking about, what i would say, a fairly traditional foreign policy. he described himself as a common sense conservative realist. he doesn't throw

because he's made all these concessions and the -- at the expense of the libertarian base which even jesse benton his 2010 campaign manager, said he can't count on them being fired up. but he really hasn't won over huge flocks of the republican establishment yet. they still see him as very suspicious. so he's in this no man's land where the activists aren't happy and the establishment isn't happy, either. so we'll see which direction he ends up going, but i think he probably has to choose one side or the other and just grab it all the way. >> the neocons hate that much so much. thank you for being here. >>> speaking of foreign policy joining me now is richard burton, served as chief arms control negotiator under george h.w. bush. i would love for there to be a republican who articulates an alternative foreign policy but i can't identify what that is when we talk about rand paul at this moment. >> well, chris i don't know what you mean about a vastly different foreign policy. i think what he did in his speech today and what he's been doing for the last 6 or 12 months is talking about, i would say,

jesse benton freemont was so powerful that the democrats were very upset with this and they had.aid the way it should read the slogan should be for president john c. freemont husband of jesse benton. >> oh my god. >> they were quite of course the women like clara barton who founded the red cross. i love the way history books say. that then she founded the red cross. what was there a struggle involved? was that difficult? you know. then she then years after the war got the congress to ratify the geneva conventions. >> oh my god. >> huge. >> great stories. the book is capital games. cokie roberts, best selling author and "founding mothers." i love it. >> cokie, this is a fantastic book. mica, if only there were powerful women in washington now. >> oh. >> oh, wait, there is valerie right over there is there look who is coming umm. yeah is left on president obama's agenda now there is so much focus on the race to replace him, white house senior adviser valerie jarrett joins the set. plus msnbc political director joe todd. instantly quenches skin to keep it supple and hydrated day aft