jesse chisholm was following that same route downtown reno where he died early on. so for some time the trail in kansas, when mccoy created it from present day wichita to present day abilene, sometimes that portion of the trail was called mccoy's trail. it wasn't even called chisholm's trail. and then -- then there was debate about whether to call it holt mccoy trail or not. and eventually the whole trail system landed on the name chisholm trail, and probably because of the death of jesse chisholm. but just as easily it could be called black beaver's trail. yeah. any other questions? yes, ma'am. >> when you refer to the cowboy mythology, what exactly do you mean by that? is it that there weren't many cowboys, they were different characters? >> oh, they were characters. a lot of them -- a lot of the cowboys that mccoy talks about were former confederates. they were young men. when he talked about them coming into abilene, he said they were still wearing their gray shirts from their time being in the confederacy. >> the reason i ask that is that my great, great grandf

probably because of the death of jesse chisholm. but it could've easily been called black beavers trail. any other questions? yes. >> when you refer to the cowboy apology, what exactly do you mean by that? there weren't so many cowboys that were different characters? >> oh, they were characters. a lot of them, the cowboys that mccoy talks about, were former confederates, they were young men. when he talked about them coming into abilene, they were still wearing their great shirts from their time in being in the confederacy. >> the reason i asked that is that my great great grandfather's, they were a drover on the chisholm trail. i have a horse and bridle that was made by him. that was my great grandmother story. >> they were a little different from cowboys, drivers were often managing that herds. cowboys worked for drivers. he was probably a cowboy then. maybe he wanted to be a drover. >> i think he left missouri and went down into the civil war area and into texas. >> there were a lot of young men, primarily young men, if you are l