. >> there is really no good route and he wound up, jesse hawley is his name, another connecticut native who tried to find his fortune in the west, winds up in debtor's prison, under a pseudonym writes the argument -- newspaper essays, arguing for and proposing and arguing for a canal across new york state directly to lake erie and it was actually his idea but dewitt clinton picks up the idea, three years later, and he is the guy that makes the erie canal happen and if you know anything about dewitt clinton he is a long time new york city mayor, new york state lawmaker, a congressman, a -- one of the canal commissioners, eventually and a long time new york governor, and he's a new york city civic benefactor and social reformer and nearly president in 1812, but for the then swing state of pennsylvania, but, clinton, has to be credited for seeing the wisdom of the erie idea. and then attaching himself, very early to the effort and he becomes its chief promoter and clinton was a popular leader, screw pewlessly hone lessllessly honest but a careless and often reviled politician but left asto