. >> i remember dole telling me about you and jesse helms. it was a vote -- literally jesse's was the vote, i don't know whether -- but what of those post 1981 tax -- >> i remember. i guess in 'february of '81, the i guess in february of 1981, the first serious challenge i had as the new majority leader, the first republican leader since bill noland of california, the first challenge i had was when we had to vote on a debt limit increase. i assumed that would all go ok i began to count heads, i think howard green came to me and said, i don't believe you will win this. i got a bunch of freshmen senators in the office around my conference table and we talked and carried on. it was clear i hadn't convinced anybody and we were going to lose that thing. as i went out i saw jesse helms. i said jesse, i have a big problem. i don't think i am going to get these new freshmen senators to vote for the debt limit increase. after we voted. he said howard can i talk to them. i said of course. so he came back in, jesse did. jesse helms. they were all gathere

the helms burton acted in 1996, jesse helms was one of the authors, that is the last piece of legislation putting embargoes in. congress still has that legislation on the books. it's going to be a lot of politics coming up on this issue. >> we could have predicted rubio's position on all of this, but i wonder how congress standings now. do you have a sense about how congress would feel now in terms of their general reaction towards the president opening up cuba, establishing diplomatic relations and asking congress to lift the trade embargo, has congress changed? >> congress has changed, so too has the cuban american voter. the [ inaudible ] which saw 125,000 cubans come here by boat in 1980. if you were 45 then, you are almost 80 now. that means you could have children, grandchildren, in some cases even great children, and a lot of that an mouse towards cuba has been diluted as the generations have grown up, as is typical in any community that you see. the same has happened in congress. there are are three senators of latin decent right now, all three are of cuban decent. we heard from r

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jesse helms for instance authored -- offered an anti-busing amendment and brooks said it's just anotheregregationist ploy. in 1975 however the freshman senator from delaware and joe biden was the freshman senator from delaware. he was 32 years old in 1975. he had big sideburns and he had almost a full head of hair. and he had a liberal voting record but he was from a border state, delaware and biden started to offer anti-busing amendments. but they anti-busing amendments were offered by young liberal from delaware rather than old conservative from the south those amendments started to get much more nationwide appeal. >> host: there was a unity of purpose there. the north in and the south wasn't so different anymore and a lot of senators jumped on the anti-busing -- i don't want to say train but jumped on the anti-busing bus. the white liberals abandoned the black liberals. the only african-american in the united states senate who was trying to enforce the constitution. >> guest: that's right so bret tried to stop the biden amendment and he was unable to. he was basically voted down. bro

because it was often offered by southern segregationist, jesse helms for instance, offered, offered ati-busing in them and brooke said this is another ploy have a lot of senators agreed. in 1975, however, the freshman senator from delaware and joe biden was the freshman senator from delaware. he was 32 years old in 1975. he had big sideburns and yet almost full head of hair, a liberal, a liberal voting record. very liberal. that he was from a border state, delaware. and he started to offer anti-busing amendments. and when the anti-busing amendments were offered a young liberal from delaware, rather than an old conservative from the south, there was an image stored to get much more nationwide appeal. >> host: a unity of purpose. the south wasn't so different anymore. >> guest: a lot of senators jumped on the anti-busing dash thy do want to say train. the anti-busing buss. >> host: the white liberals abandoned the black liberal, the only one trying to enforce the constitution, according to him. >> guest: that's right. and so brooke tried to stop the biden amendment's and he was unable t

working through an interesting group called the cuban-american national foundation went to senator jesse helms of north carolina, representative dan burton of indiana, and got congress to come this close to passing a bill that codified the embargo. we have had embargoes of various countries like north korea. but it has always been a presidential embargo. the helms-burton act would codify and president clinton said i will veto it. the constitution gives me, the chief executive, the president the right to conduct foreign , policy. and this codifying of the embargo is an infringement upon my executive branch prerogatives . and that's where it stood until the castro government shot down two planes of the brothers of the rescue. they used to fly in the straits of florida looking for rafters and would radio back to the coast guard and say there is a rafter out there, grab that rafter. and then they also started flying over havana leafleting . and in 1996, 2 of their three planes in the international waters were shot down by cubans. the homes britain -- the helms-burton act requires the president to

they went to senator jesse helms of north carolina, representative dan burton of indiana, and got congress to come this close to passing a bill that codified the embargo. we have had embargoes of various countries like north korea. but it has always been a presidential embargo. the helms-burton act would codify, and president clinton said i will veto it. the constitution gives me, the chief executive, the president the right to conduct foreign policy. and this codifying of the embargo is an infringement upon my executive branch prerogatives. and that's where it stood until the castro government shot down two planes of the brothers of the rescue. they used to fly in the straits of florida looking for rafters and would radio back to the coast guard and say there is a rafter out there, grab that rafter. and then they also started flying over havana leafleting. and in 1996, two of their three planes in the international waters were shot down by cubans. the helms-burton act requires the president to keep the embargo until cuba has embarked upon a series of steps. this is a very complex piece of

as i went out i saw jesse helm. i said jesse, i got a big problem. don't think i'm going to get these new freshman senators to vote for this debt limit increase. after we voted he said, can i talk to them? i said so, he came back here. they were all gathered and they said, gentlemen, i understand that you are not going to vote for the debt limit increase. i understand that and i understand many of you ran against this and i want you to know that i did not vote for it. ronald reagan is the president. i'm going to do it and so are you. i got all of them, but one. >> hal baker -- howard baker died this year. you can see that interview. >> on the c-span network, here are some of the featured programs. the washington ideas forum. t boone pickens, warren brown and an inventor. the brooklyn historical society holds a conversation on race. from the explorers club, walt cunningham on the first manned spaceflight. just before noon eastern, an author on the 33 men buried in a mine. richard norton smith on the life of nelson rockefeller. the correspondent for cb

every time i see jesse helms i feel like a little kid in "the sixth sense." i don't know why.eering] "i see dead people! help me!" you have to be careful. they hang in there long time. then you have got pat buchanan and the christian right. old pat, i love d his book but i left in better in the original german. i guess the bottom line is we are here tonight because of the shrub. you know who i am talking about. george w. bush, jr. the w stands for where the hell is it? summoner born great, some achieve greatness in some get it as a graduation gift. [laughter] i just want to ask the secret service -- is it true that his codename is gilligan? "gilligan is on the move!" i hate to see him and keep asking if he could use his lifeline. no, you can't call your dad! not the brightest bulb on the tree. oh, frightening. i don't want to see him in charge of the economy. it is like giving oj a benihana. no! no! i am afraid. you know what i'm saying? it is a frightening combination. of poor boy asked -- is to push have you ever done cocaine? well, 15. no 25. 27! you will be in the white ho

soe came back and, jesse helms, and they were all gather ther. they said you areot going to te for this debt lmit increase. he said i understand that. ani want you to know i never voted for a debt lmit inease. i'm going to do it and if s are you. howard bakerwas 88-years-od when he diedhis year. you can e the rest of that intervi at eit stern on c-span >>> the enter first paycheck and internatnastudies holding a panel discussion on the future viability d noc competitiveness of coal as aengy resource in the u.s. and around theorld. this is 90 minutes. >> good afternoon, ladies an gentlemen. i'm from the brookings institution where am a senior fellow in the energyecurity initiative. it'salways nice to come back to csi -- csis. it's like returning home to former colagues. so ithink csis ver much fo inviting me here to moderate this exciting panel. we have a stellar lineuptoday. we are going to hear from the office of gas coal and electrity in te markets division of he iea one of the mot fluential forecasters and technology. we have an old frienand a

when bill clinton nominated me to go to mcs a ambassador and senator jesse helms thanked my ship, it wasn't really because he thought i would be soft on drugs in mexico. it's because he hate everything i stood for, and starting with being pro choice and pro gay rights, and worst of all, having gone to harvard. thank god uncle nelson didn't go to harvard. >> where did he go to college? >> dartmouth. >> let me mention just a couple of things here before i move on to another point. one is i'm glad, larry brought up barry goldwater's famous words, when he spoke and said, let me remind you that extremism in defense of justice is no vice, and moderation in pursuit of justice is no virtue. the interesting thing about those remarks is, if you take them out of the context of that superheated moment, they're actually ideas most of us might agree with. for instance, if we were looking at the days of naziism or stalinism, we would say, or, if we're trying to stop the ebola crisis,'d say maybe we should go as far as we can go. the reason i mention that is i spoke with the author of those words --

i were both democrats and then he became more conservative, so conservative he even worked for jesse helmseone has to stand up for the family honor! >> joyce, how noisy does it get at the kitchen table when your boys are arguing about politics? >> i have eight grandchildren. one of which is autistic. and then i have these loud guys coming in there arguing and then, of course, brad's wife is a republican, chief of staff for republican congressman. she chimes in and sometimes she and dallas, they gang up on brad. >> i love her! at least i don't have to sleep with her. >> that's over the line. as it turns out, it's not christmas at the woodhouse, it's family feud! every time you get together. haven't you guys heard that when it comes to family get togethers, you shouldn't talk about religion and you shouldn't talk about politics. >> that's all we talk about. >> what fun would that be? that would be no fun. that's like asking lassie to stop being a dog or bill clinton to stop checking out women. come on! >> i would like to say -- >> by the way, if people really love my mom, they need to watch