here is his power pitch. >> i'm jesse lawrence. tick iq is a ticket search engine to find the best deals online. all without paying any additional fees. if you ever wonder if you're paying the right price or if the ticket is legitimate, tiq iq solves those problems. we give consumers the most plexable set of buying options available. through those publishers, we deliver content into the editorial stream and give consumers and fans information they need to buy tickets on their favorite performers and teams. because this is a valuable audience, ticket sellers pay us so we don't have to pass along extra fees to consumers. >> jesse can listen in but can't react just yet. we have a managing director, which is a billion dollar seattle based pc firm. we are joined by david packman. currently has investments in cloud and dollar shape club among others. david, first you. >> i would really like to learn more about how he is making his money. it will be hard for him to compete. >> that's really my concern here. you have stub hub and ticket ma