jesse mckinley is the albany bureau chief for the new york times. he joins us now. much for being with us. you interviewed both these women. what did they tell you that the governor did? jesse mckinley: well, in each case, it is different. but in lindsey boylan's case, who was the first woman to come forward last week, she alleged that the governor had harassed her on several occasions between 2016 and 2018, leading up to a kiss in his manhattan office, which was kind of the culmination of a couple of years of behavior by the governor. in the case of charlotte bennt, this was a more detailed description that we got from her of the governor basically calling her into his office and doing some work, and then the conversation really turning to kind of an uncomfortable terrain, where the governor was asking her, her opinions on monogamy, whether or not she slept with older men, whether or not she thought that age differences were a problem in relationships, all of which led ms. bennett to believe that the governor basically was propositioning her. john yang: and the gove

less rms drama. >>> in jesse mckinley's breaking news reporting in "new york times" tonight, anna ruchnley reports what happened next. after collecting herself, later that night, miss ruch said she had hoped to speak with the governor before he left and confront him about his behavior, but by then could not find him. would have rather just said it that night, i wanted to say that wasn't okay. joining us now, albany bureau chief for "new york times," jesse mckinley, thanks for joining us, really appreciate it. want to go through the three accusations to have the governor's position defined on this. as i see it, governor specifically denied the allegations made by lindsey boylan, has he denied the allegations by bennett or ruch? >> he has not. charlotte bennett told her story to me last week and we published it saturday night, since that time he's not explicitly denied anything charlotte said, made a broad statement on saturday, saying he believed that to be a mentorship rather than a relationship that miss bennett was veering in a sexual manner. in the case of miss ruch that we broke th

jesse mckinley is the new york times' albany bureau chief — who broke the story. hejoins us now. ennett has actually come out _ hour, charlotte bennett has actually come out with a new statement released — come out with a new statement released through a powerful washington lawyer, deborah katz, who she has— washington lawyer, deborah katz, who she has retained to represent her in this, which— she has retained to represent her in this, which is— she has retained to represent her in this, which is basically saying that she believes the governor engaged in predatory— she believes the governor engaged in predatory behaviour. that his apology— predatory behaviour. that his apology did not land or go far enough. _ apology did not land or go far enough, and that she is calling on other— enough, and that she is calling on other women who may have experienced similar— other women who may have experienced similar things from the government to step _ similar things from the government to step forward and tell their stories— to step forward and tell their stories as well. so this is certainl

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with me now the reporter who broke the story, jesse mckinley. to have you back on the show. >> good morning. how are you? >> i'm good. thank you. so let's talk about this investigation because you had several prominent new york democrats, chuck schumer, kirsten gillibrand, alexandria ocasio-cortez who wanted an independent investigation, there was some back and forth between the governor and the new york attorney general about what that would look like. talk to us about where this goes from here. >> i think you will probably see an announcement this week from the attorney general as to an outside counsel who will lead the investigation. we don't have that confirmed yet, but considering the intensity and the seriousness of this sal gags i think you would probably see that pretty quickly. as you mentioned obviously the condemnation of the governor's alleged action has come from both sides of the aisle, democrats and republicans of course and there is some movement obviously in albany already to strip his emergency powers. i would suspect that gains

. >> joining us now is jesse mckinley, albany bureau chief for the new york times. ent female aide to the governor that was referred to the albany police department. is there a common thread through these accusations? or are there things that this latest allegation involves that are different? >> many of the allegations thus far involve former employees, generally employees that were subordinate to the governor. in terms of assistance and things like that. the allegation outlined in the times union involved a young woman who said she was groped at the executive mansion when she was -- right up the hill here in albany on is probably the most alarming just from a shirley criminal viewpoint. obviously, the referral to the albany police, which came via the state police indicates that at least there is some possibility of a misdemeanor involved here. and i think that that honestly moves the needle in terms of -- politicians calling for mr. cuomo to resign. yesterday obviously, we saw an enormous number of congressional delegation, all democrat stepping forward saying it i

with me now is jesse mckinley, albany reporter and bureau chief for "the new york times."t this letter. >> well, apparently it was circulated in december, shortly after ms. boylan tweeted that she had been sexually harassed by governor cuomo. pretty promptly after that, the letter began to make the rounds around current and former aides of governor cuomo's, particularly women with an eye of undercutting her credibility on these claims. the letter was never released, seems to have never gotten past a couple of drafts but indicates how seriously they took this charge in terms of mr. cuomo's reputation. and also shortly after lindsay boylan made her initial claim in december, confidential personnel documents were released to members of the media, which illustrated kind of a history of combative behavior by ms. boylan. people saw this as a classic example of retaliating against someone who had made a claim. >> so when we talk about people tied to cuomo in this letter, what sort of people were we talking about, aides? how high did this go? >> governor cuomo has been in office f

jesse mckinley is the "new york times" bureau chief. >> jesse, thanks so much for being with us.nterviewed both these women. what did they tell you that the governor did? >> well, in each case it is different, but in lindsey's case, she alleges that the governor had harassed her on sevseveral occasions between 2016 to 2018, leading up to a kiss in his manhattan office, which is the culmination of a couple of years of behavior by the governor. in the case of charlotte bennett, this was a more detailed description that we got from her. the governor basically calling her into his office and doing some work, and then the conversation really turning to kind of an uncomfortable terrain, where the governor was asking her her opinions on monogomy, whether or not she slept with older men, whether or not she thought age differences were a problem in relationships. all of which led her to believe that the governor was basically propositioning here. >> and the governor's response to this has evolved from the first allegation. how has it changed over time? >> well, in the case of lindsey bowl

joining us now is jesse mckinley, the albany bureau chief for "the new york times." the forefront of the story breaking many different aspects of it. what's new this morning politically there is now an official investigation inside the legislature. what is this change? why did it happen, and what does it mean? >> certainly it means the governor is now facing a double-barrelled investigation from the state legislature and the state attorney general who formally launched her investigation a couple weeks ago in the wake of some of our coverage in "the times. "obviously this is concerning for the governor because of the scope of what both the attorney general and the legislature can do. both are armed with subpoena power. both can compel witness testimony. both can draw down documents. and with kind of a growing roster of allegations, now six women saying the governor has acted inappropriately, that could be a wide spanning investigation on both fronts. >> cnn hasn't been able to confirm that number of accusers. we know things are changing every day, but is this an offic

joining us now, errol louis, the political anchor for spectrum news and jesse mckinley, the bureau chiefnew york times." he broke the story on cuomo's second and third accusers. errol, among national democrats and new york democrats, how many do you count this morning standing up and defending governor cuomo? >> well, vocally defending the governor, the answer at this point is zero. and by vocally defending, i mean, saying, i know this man and this couldn't possibly be true. or this would be greatly out of character or this comes as a shock. and nobody is saying that they're shocked. nobody is saying that they want to vouch for his character over and above any particular facts that may have already come out. and that's telling. and frankly, it's damning. it's a problem. you've got an investigation that's going to take some time. and until that investigation is done, if you don't have anyone standing up as a character witness for the governor, it really says something about the political alliances that he has ever never built or allowed to degrade over time. >> jesse, wouldn't it be hard

reporting that police have reached out to a representative for the woman, and offered their services jesse mckinley now he is the albany bureau chief for the "new york times. jesse tha jesse, thanks for checking in. there's a ton of pressure from all sides, including the impeachment from the state assembly what happens now >> it's two investigations now not only the assembly but the state attorney general has already authorized an investigation which is underway. my understanding is they are already talking to people with an interest this that investigation, including perhaps even some of the accusers certainly what the assembly did tonight by pushing forward with their own investigation ups the stakes for governor cuomo. this also comes at a time that more and more democrats who rule albany, rule the state of new york are coming out and saying he should resign it's a perilous position politically for mr. cuomo right now. >> is he still of the position from last reports that he won't resign under any circumstances, meaning the only way to oust him is through impeachment. >> yeah, i think at this po

thank you so much, anne thompson, jesse mckinley, thanks for being with us. alcindor, appreciate all of you. we have breaking news now following the former polici police officer involved in the death of george floyd. nbc news justice correspondent pete williams joins us now. that trial is set to start with jury selection on monday. what's happened today? >> it may not start on monday, andrea, if this gets appealed. derrick shauf vin's lawyers argued a of 3rd degree murder. that can only be police force and someone died. that can't be used. the trial judge agreed. but an appeals court in minnesota said that's not the case, the charge can be used and sent it back to the trial court. shauf vin's lawyers can appeal this to the state supreme court and that could delay the start of the trial. as of now, the state is able to try again to get the third degree murder charge reinstated but chauvin's lawyers could appeal. >>> the disparity in vaccination rates across the country continuing to grow. larry hogan under fire for low vaccinations in communities of color. how

supporters are beginning to slip and i think for governor cuomo, that's the worrisome thing >> jesse mckinley, the bureau chief for the "new york times" newspaper up in the state capital bureau thank you, sir appreciate it. >>> a dad says an officer pointed a gun at his 8-year-old son. that's what he says. tonight, cops release body cam footage that they show -- say shows a completely different story. >>> and mexico is one step closer to legalizing recreational pot for every adult. that would make it the world's largest market for cannabis. and would put the united states between two pot selling neighbors. >>> and compassion in crisis, many still reeling from their own losses but they're helping the most vulnerable navigate a complex system to get their vaccinations we'll meet the covid angels, next >> announcer: the facts, the truth, the news with shepard smith, back in 60 seconds. -well, audrey's expecting... -twins! grandparents! we want to put money aside for them, so...change in plans. alright, let's see what we can adjust. ♪♪ we'd be closer to the twins. change in plans. okay. mom, are

. >> jesse mckinley, thank you very much for joining from albany. >> anytime. >> that is tonight's "the last word." "the 11th hour" with brian williams starts now. >> good evening once again, day 41 of biden administration. tonight there are as you've no doubt heard, troubling allegations against new york governor andrew cuomo. "new york times" out with a report of woman accusing him of making unwanted advance at a wedding after two former aides accused governor cuomo of sexual harassment in the workplace. we'll have much more ahead. also a third covid vaccine is about to be available to millions of americans. johnson & johnson's single dose, one and done shot is making its way to communities across the country just days after the fda signed off on its use. >> starting yesterday, we began executing on our plans by distributing 3.9 million doses of johnson & johnson to states, tribes and territories. and also to pharmacies and community health centers. johnson & johnson doses will be delivered as early as tomorrow. >> about 7.5% of americans have been fully vaccinated by now. that includ

joining our conversation is jesse mckinley, claire is still here. has been really all over this story. take us through this account and where the investigation stands. >> well, charlotte bennett spoke to us last week in a series of interviews, basically outlining a series of uncomfortable conversations she had with the governor, most particularly one in early june where the governor mentioned their age difference, mentioned the fact that -- asked her point-blank if she was monogamous in her relationships, asked whether she had slept with older men and that all of this in toto led ms. bennett to believe that the governor was essentially propositioning her. now the governor denied that but did not deny that he had made those remarks. so, that has led us to a weekend full of the cuomo administration basically trying to damage control a situation which is spiraling out of their control at this moment. >> jesse, you report that the governor's chief of staff moved her to another position so she wouldn't have any more interactions. is there any indication

here's jesse mckinley who's been reporting on the allegations in "the new york times" last night. >> certainly the two allegations that have come out already have created the impression that there might be more people out there. you know, i think generally with sexual harassment oftentimes it's not a single case, it's multiple cases. i think those are going to be lines of inquiry going forward. >> reached by the times's spokesman, governor cuomo's director did not acknowledge ruch's account. he said some of his interactions may have been insensitive and misinterpreted as unwanted flirtation and made others feel in ways he's not intended. charlotte bennett said it took the governor 24 hours and significant backlash to allow for a truly independent investigation. these are not the actions of someone who simply feels misunderstood. they're the actions of an individual who wields his power to avoid jus zblis what makes this latest accuser different is she is not a former employer. the state attorney general is officially overseeing this investigation. that lawyer will have subpoena power

joining us now is jesse mckinley, the albany bureau chief for "the new york times."t andrew's second accuser. he spoke to her. here is part of what you wrote, so charlotte bennett, 25 years old, a former aide. here are some of the things she told you. bennett, who had just turned 25 at the time, said mr. cuomo had also asked her about her feelings about age differences in relationships, saying, age doesn't matter, according to a text she sent to her friend. he asked me if i believe age made a difference in relationships and also asked me in the same conversation if i had ever been with an older man. and of course, there's more, jesse. just tell us why she felt comfortable coming forward and why now? >> well, this came in the wake of another sexual harassment allegation last week by lindsey boylan, another former cuomo administration official who said that the governor had kissed her in 2018. subsequent to that, i had reached out to charlotte who had re-tweeted that initial story and charlotte and i had lengthy conversations on thursday and friday about her experience

joining us now is jesse mckinley who broke the story about cuomo's second and third accusers.ain. yesterday, you said on our air that the next 48 hours would be critical for governor cuomo's future. so what are you looking for today. >> in looking at the remarks yesterday, i think the governor was apologetic. he certainly was empathetic or at least asked -- he was certainly emotional. i think what you'll have to look at now is how that lands. not only with lawmakers who will be listening to their constituents, but also if there's any public polling on this. you know, initial indications would have said, he took a pretty bad hit from his early handling of this sexual harassment scandal. so we'll be looking to see how it lands. and of course, i think everyone is on guard as to whether or not there would be any new allegations coming up in the days and weeks to come. >> what are you hearing? the real question is, was it enough? was it enough? and how much do you know this morning, i guess, from democratic legislatures? >> well, it's a little early to tell, but you know, i think t

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. >> joining us now is jesse mckinley, the albany bureau chief for "the new york times."ys you've been watching senior elected democrats in albany to see how they would react to what's been going on. and now we have the state senate majority leader coming out and saying she wants the governor's resignation. this has to be a blow. >> yeah, it's a significant development. you know, andrea stewart cousins is one of the highest ranking women in the state, she is a democrat and leads a democratic super majority in the state senate. a lot of eyes were on her to see how she would react to the most recent allegations. and yesterday afternoon, shortly after governor cuomo spoke, she came out and said, he must resign. >> now there's also a third aide, a former aide, who has come forward to say that she has had some of these experiences. she says, a former aide for cuomo, ana lisz, told that governor cuomo asked her if she had a boyfriend, touched her on her lower back in reception and once touched her hand when she raised from her desk. she served as an aide from 2013 to 2015. so t

out front now jess mckinley who broke the story. annie philip our senior correspondent. the first member of new york's congressional delegation has now called for cuomo's resignation. you have six state lawmakers calling now for impeachment proceedings. i don't know what you're working on right now whether there will be even more accusers coming out here. when you put it all together has this become a matter of when cuomo resigns not if? >> i think we're kind of on a razor's edge at this point. i think it could actually break either way. i think in albany in the halls of power in the state capitol there is anger, upset, and a growing number of lawmakers who are very upset about this and would consider impeachment or resignation. i don't think they quite have the numbers at this point to push governor cuomo to a resignation but once again as you pointed out if other allegations are made credible or if other women come forward the calculus i think could change and in a hurry. >> so to that point, abby, it took three weeks for former democratic senator al franken to resign

. >> it looks like we just lost jesse mckinley but we got a good portion of his reporting.hank you for joining us. >>> and this week president biden expressed more support for unions than any president in decades. listen to this. >> unions lift up workers, union and nonunion, especially black and brown workers. i've made it clear, made it clear when i was running that my administration's policy would be to support unions organizing and the right to collectively bargain. >> you heard it. he specifically pointed to what has been happening in alabama where warehouse workers are trying to be the first amazon employees to join a union. joining me now, business and technology correspondent joelene kent. so amazon is really hoping that these employees do not vote to say yes to unionizing. talk to me about what is happening and when we expect to get a final vote tally. >> yeah. all eyes are on march 29th. that's when this vote by mail situation will conclude. and then the hand counting will begin of this union vote. the reason amazon is campaigning against this union is because the

joining our conversation is jesse mckinley, albany bureau chief of "the new york times."eginning. this feels like a very serious new level of the investigation into him with potential ramifications of his political fate. >> yes. certainly the allegations that were outlined on tuesday and again on wednesday in more detail are very serious involving groping inside of the executive mansion which is right up the hill here in albany and obviously the level of concern from the state police as well as from the governor's office and contacts with the albany police. it's a serious situation here. >> i want to read some of the reporting from your story and the aid who was younger from mr. cuomo, and the second floor assistant with a technical issue and mr. cuomo reached under her blouse and began touching her. the times union said a female supervisor in the office became aware of the aide's allegation on march 3rd and mr. cuomo following multiple allegations of sexual harassment and inappropriate behavior gave a televised apology in which he denied touching anyone inappropriately.

. >> joining our conversation, jesse mckinley, albany bureau chief for "the new york times," someone is helped us understand this story. this now feels like a real clash, a real political force against him and a real digging in from him. where does this stand? >> well, it's trench warfare, to put it politely. at this point governor cuomo shows no movement towards giving any consideration to resigning despite many of the democratic delegation saying it's time to go. last week the governor was fairly contrite about the allegations against him, today he was downright combative, saying these other politicians were reckless, making a none-too-veiled threat that the voters would hold them accountable, not hold him accountable. and until people have the facts, which was one of his catch phrases during the coronavirus briefings, that until then, nobody she had call for resignations. >> this is him this afternoon on people's motives. >> i won't speculate about people's possible motives. but i can tell you as a former attorney general who has gone through this situation many times, there are o